CR:NW went to the dyno today!

Caldera · 03-15-2008, 05:57 PM

Agent935, Souk, and I were all at the RRev dyno day today. They put on a dyno day to benefit Heads-up NW, a local drag racing group.

It was the usual "three pulls with wideband" setup. Souk didn't run (but we did gaze lovingly upon his OD-Green dime that's at RRev). Unfortunately the wideband crapped out on my run, but since I have one on my dash, i didn't worry too much. Car stayed at 14.5 to 4500, spiked to 11, and came down to 12.5/13 by 7k.

I put down 142/116, Ben put down just over 100, and made sure we'd never have mosquito problems with the smoke he was chunkin'. It seems to be running a little rich.

One of Ben's dyno runs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyqTKkTMODw

One of my dyno runs will be up later, Somethings clogging up the youtubes.

...and my new dyno sheet:

levnubhin · 03-15-2008, 06:07 PM

Nice numbers, what are your cars specs?

fwdtamiya · 03-15-2008, 06:14 PM

Very impressive! Mods are Fuji ITBs, Ex-Intake from a 99-00 I believe, what else?

Agent935 · 03-15-2008, 06:22 PM

He has an RB header, no cat and RB catback too.

not sure what's up with my car with the smoke. the A/f was right at 12 for most of the runs and really steady which is a little on the rich side but not terrible. Time to put that 1.8 in.

slutz4 · 03-15-2008, 06:23 PM

wow those are nice numbers. Congrats

Caldera · 03-15-2008, 06:29 PM

Thanks all. Ben, you gonna post yours?

I got your 1.8 stuff right here, found the FM TB adapter and cable bracket plus the 1.8 horns and you already have the coil bracket I gave ya. That should be everything, right?

Aaanyhow, on topic: Yeah.

Car's a 1994, with 1996 engine with ~90k on it.
Unorthodox UDP, 2001/1999 Exhaust cams, 2001 lifters, Fuji ITBs, OER Subcon, RB header, exhaust, testpipe.

Head is untouched, as is bottom end.

souk · 03-15-2008, 06:35 PM

Too bad you left early Matt, because Adam and his Toyota went on the rollers just to tease me and my money-pit Datsun. Anyone want to buy a Miata for CHEAP?

Ben, let me know when you are dropping the 1.8 in. I would like to help (learn).

Caldera · 03-15-2008, 06:43 PM

Oh, that sucks. He did get on there? What'd he pull, 207 again?

Agent935 · 03-15-2008, 06:53 PM

Yeah he put down 207

souk · 03-15-2008, 07:03 PM

I can still hear that dam thing in my head. I was going to try and one-up on him with some itbs but he was already talking about boost and shooting for 500. On top of that he laughed at my attempt on some motor mounts.

Caldera · 03-15-2008, 07:22 PM

I shoulda come back down with my S. Damnit!

Caldera · 03-15-2008, 09:21 PM

The youtubes got some Liquid Plumr! I uploaded it at 3, it finally cleared like 4 hours later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlNC1hpnvo

Link · 03-15-2008, 11:29 PM

Nice numbers fellas! =D>

FooSchnickens · 03-15-2008, 11:52 PM

Don't post this on m.net, they're likely to edit it and flame it into oblivion

That aside, nice results. :3

Caldera · 03-16-2008, 05:29 AM

Oh dude... but I HAVE to post it there now!

hehehe. Genuinely I need to post it since i've got the NB exhintake going and nobody there does.

RWD_only · 03-16-2008, 05:30 AM

Damn, i'm disappointed at myself, I definitely should have gone. I bet I would have gotten a prize for lowest HP.

In any case good numbers and Matt, those are great curves!

PS Matt: remind me about that FPR for sale, and if/when we could do that turbo install.

Bryan · 03-16-2008, 06:05 AM

Pretty neat

down_hill_dog · 03-18-2008, 08:47 AM

i don't mean to be negative... but dynojet

Agent935 · 03-18-2008, 10:06 PM

Dynojet is the industry standard. Everybody has one and it's easy to compare numbers.

Caldera · 03-19-2008, 01:38 AM

Explain to me how you're being negative calling Dynojet on the results?

BFD. the correction factor is right there on the sheet, and more importantly it's the same dyno at .01 off the correction factor of the last time I dynoed.

To me it's more about the delta between this run and the last one. If i changed to Mustang or other brands I'd lose the ability to see what each modification is gaining me.

PcolasNA · 03-19-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caldera @ Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:38 am

To me it's more about the delta between this run and the last one. If i changed to Mustang or other brands I'd lose the ability to see what each modification is gaining me.

thats what its really all about. I am going to try and do that with my next car.

Diamond Dave · 03-19-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by souk @ 3/15/2008, 4:03 pm

I can still hear that dam thing in my head. I was going to try and one-up on him with some itbs but he was already talking about boost and shooting for 500. On top of that he laughed at my attempt on some motor mounts.

Not to hijack, but did you have a white Civic when you moved up here a few years ago? And then an FC and 510 Wagon?

Agent935 · 03-20-2008, 08:54 AM

He does have a 510 wagon and coupe I don't know about the others

Caldera · 08-14-2008, 05:23 PM

So i went back to the dyno today.

Same mods as last time, just 5 more months of fiddly knob tuning.

Went from 141whp to 146.
Went from 116lbft to 120.

Last dyno was @65*F, this one... 95*F.
Then, 30.23in-HG, today was 29.96.
then 43 percent hum, today 35.
CF then .96, CF now 1.01. Real gains? CF is skewing me.

Graphs to follow later, but figured I shouldn't start a new thread when I already had this one.

Agent935 · 08-14-2008, 08:30 PM

that's within the margin of error man. I dunno if you actually made any gains there

FooSchnickens · 08-14-2008, 08:36 PM

Needs more stabdalone >:3

Caldera · 08-14-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent935 @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:30 pm

that's within the margin of error man. I dunno if you actually made any gains there

But it's numbers I can brag about on the interwebs!

seriously tho, 5hp at 30 degrees higher ambient temp is SOMETHING. 5? Maybe maybe not. Don't care all that much this was all for fun. Even if i made no power, I now have a new "seattle baseline" run so I don't have to go to RRev in PDX to get repeatable numbers, ya know? At least I know I didn't hurt the motor today abusing it like I did.

Besides, it was a free dyno session, and that pull came after 3 hours of pulls that I wasn't tuning on, just running the car under full load for some non-performance stuff.

Here's the chart.

Link · 08-14-2008, 09:08 PM

Dang, how do you do it?!

I'd say that's significant gains, it's been so hot here you'd think it would have been lower.

Nice job!

Caldera · 08-14-2008, 10:42 PM

I do not know. If I knew, i'd bottle it and sell it. Heh.

I was expecting 135ish with the heat, the fact that i'd overheated the Miata 4x in the last hour prior to this and the fact that I was running just that stupid Fuji piggyback. I still don't have MS.

I was blown away to make power, or at least break even, whichever I did.

Link · 08-14-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caldera @ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:42 pm

I do not know. If I knew, i'd bottle it and sell it. Heh.

If you ever figure this out, I'll take two!

03-15-2008, 05:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	CR:NW went to the dyno today! Agent935, Souk, and I were all at the RRev dyno day today. They put on a dyno day to benefit Heads-up NW, a local drag racing group. It was the usual "three pulls with wideband" setup. Souk didn't run (but we did gaze lovingly upon his OD-Green dime that's at RRev). Unfortunately the wideband crapped out on my run, but since I have one on my dash, i didn't worry too much. Car stayed at 14.5 to 4500, spiked to 11, and came down to 12.5/13 by 7k. I put down 142/116, Ben put down just over 100, and made sure we'd never have mosquito problems with the smoke he was chunkin'. It seems to be running a little rich. One of Ben's dyno runs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyqTKkTMODw One of my dyno runs will be up later, Somethings clogging up the youtubes. ...and my new dyno sheet:
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-15-2008, 06:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
fwdtamiya Lost Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 5,757	Re: CR:NW went to the dyno today! Very impressive! Mods are Fuji ITBs, Ex-Intake from a 99-00 I believe, what else?
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03-15-2008, 06:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	He has an RB header, no cat and RB catback too. not sure what's up with my car with the smoke. the A/f was right at 12 for most of the runs and really steady which is a little on the rich side but not terrible. Time to put that 1.8 in.
	__________________ Ben ================= 1993 Limited Edition #935 PDX Cheerleader and Unofficial Organizer 1.8 Swap Project Thread http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../signature.png

03-15-2008, 06:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	Thanks all. Ben, you gonna post yours? I got your 1.8 stuff right here, found the FM TB adapter and cable bracket plus the 1.8 horns and you already have the coil bracket I gave ya. That should be everything, right? Aaanyhow, on topic: Yeah. Car's a 1994, with 1996 engine with ~90k on it. Unorthodox UDP, 2001/1999 Exhaust cams, 2001 lifters, Fuji ITBs, OER Subcon, RB header, exhaust, testpipe. Head is untouched, as is bottom end.
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-15-2008, 06:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
souk Noob Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	Too bad you left early Matt, because Adam and his Toyota went on the rollers just to tease me and my money-pit Datsun. Anyone want to buy a Miata for CHEAP? Ben, let me know when you are dropping the 1.8 in. I would like to help (learn).
souk Noob Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15

03-15-2008, 06:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
levnubhin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Va beach Posts: 2,677	Nice numbers, what are your cars specs?

03-15-2008, 06:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
slutz4 Esteemed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lawrenceburg Indiana Posts: 3,772	wow those are nice numbers. Congrats

03-15-2008, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	Oh, that sucks. He did get on there? What'd he pull, 207 again?
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-15-2008, 06:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	Yeah he put down 207
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03-15-2008, 07:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
souk Noob Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	I can still hear that dam thing in my head. I was going to try and one-up on him with some itbs but he was already talking about boost and shooting for 500. On top of that he laughed at my attempt on some motor mounts.
souk Noob Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15

03-15-2008, 07:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	I shoulda come back down with my S. Damnit!
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-15-2008, 09:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	The youtubes got some Liquid Plumr! I uploaded it at 3, it finally cleared like 4 hours later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlNC1hpnvo
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-15-2008, 11:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Link Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 1,315	Re: CR:NW went to the dyno today! Nice numbers fellas! =D>
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03-15-2008, 11:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
FooSchnickens Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,430	Don't post this on m.net, they're likely to edit it and flame it into oblivion That aside, nice results. :3
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03-16-2008, 05:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	Oh dude... but I HAVE to post it there now! hehehe. Genuinely I need to post it since i've got the NB exhintake going and nobody there does.
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-18-2008, 08:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
down_hill_dog Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 316	i don't mean to be negative... but dynojet
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03-18-2008, 10:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	Dynojet is the industry standard. Everybody has one and it's easy to compare numbers.
	__________________ Ben ================= 1993 Limited Edition #935 PDX Cheerleader and Unofficial Organizer 1.8 Swap Project Thread http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../signature.png

03-19-2008, 01:38 AM	#20 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	Explain to me how you're being negative calling Dynojet on the results? BFD. the correction factor is right there on the sheet, and more importantly it's the same dyno at .01 off the correction factor of the last time I dynoed. To me it's more about the delta between this run and the last one. If i changed to Mustang or other brands I'd lose the ability to see what each modification is gaining me.
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

03-20-2008, 08:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	He does have a 510 wagon and coupe I don't know about the others
	__________________ Ben ================= 1993 Limited Edition #935 PDX Cheerleader and Unofficial Organizer 1.8 Swap Project Thread http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../signature.png

08-14-2008, 05:23 PM	#24 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	So i went back to the dyno today. Same mods as last time, just 5 more months of fiddly knob tuning. Went from 141whp to 146. Went from 116lbft to 120. Last dyno was @65F, this one... 95F. Then, 30.23in-HG, today was 29.96. then 43 percent hum, today 35. CF then .96, CF now 1.01. Real gains? CF is skewing me. Graphs to follow later, but figured I shouldn't start a new thread when I already had this one.
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

08-14-2008, 08:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	that's within the margin of error man. I dunno if you actually made any gains there
	__________________ Ben ================= 1993 Limited Edition #935 PDX Cheerleader and Unofficial Organizer 1.8 Swap Project Thread http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../signature.png

08-14-2008, 08:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
FooSchnickens Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,430	Needs more stabdalone >:3
	__________________ What has this become...

08-14-2008, 09:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
Link Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 1,315	Re: CR:NW went to the dyno today! Dang, how do you do it?! I'd say that's significant gains, it's been so hot here you'd think it would have been lower. Nice job!
	__________________ 1995 Miata 2001 Honda Odyssey

08-14-2008, 10:42 PM	#29 (permalink)
Caldera Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,999	I do not know. If I knew, i'd bottle it and sell it. Heh. I was expecting 135ish with the heat, the fact that i'd overheated the Miata 4x in the last hour prior to this and the fact that I was running just that stupid Fuji piggyback. I still don't have MS. I was blown away to make power, or at least break even, whichever I did.
	__________________ -Matt '05 Elise, '99 Neon. No more Miata... for now.

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