long trip maintenance high mileage?

j-radvw · 01-31-2010, 11:49 PM

ok so i have a 91 with 201xxx on the clock. im getting ready to make a 700 mile one way trip, so 1400 and them some. what do i need to replace to make the trip? things im thanking about replacing. TB, water pump/Gasket..., Camshaft Seals, Valve Cover Gasket, front main seal, spark plugs, air filter, tires, Radiator Hose?

things im thanking about upgrading. Radiator, oil cooler, Silencer?

any thing i missed? over kill?

invert · 02-01-2010, 12:22 AM

If I were you, I'd have an inspection done.

Oil change ? Have brakes greased (mine ALWAYS break on long trips lol) ? Verify all fluids...

zoom2zoom · 02-01-2010, 03:10 AM

I would just check the seals and hoses, if they aren't leaking and feel pliable you should be fine. A coolant flush and oil change should be sufficient, although overheating this time of year shouldn't be an issue.

j-radvw · 02-01-2010, 06:33 AM

so its over kill? i have no leaks TB look great no sag its just that time 200xxx. i just thought i should be for i wint on the trip?

j-radvw · 02-01-2010, 06:39 AM

what kind of inspection ?

j-radvw · 02-01-2010, 06:16 PM

bump

Max_Power · 02-01-2010, 06:52 PM

Does the car leak oil? Have you done any maintenance?
If it doesn't leak I wouldn't worry too much...
Have you done the timing belt?
If the car doesn't have any service history and has 200K on the clock I would do timing belt and water pump (and if you are there change the seals too).

What is the TB? Do you mean throttle body?

invert · 02-01-2010, 07:04 PM

By inspection, I mean full inspection. It may be costly, but you'll know exactly what needs to be done on your car.

jux · 02-01-2010, 07:28 PM

Check the fluids, belts & hoses. If all is well (and you've been keeping up with the regular maintenance), just get out there & enjoy the drive!

k.beaty · 02-01-2010, 07:35 PM

I would check your tie-rods and balljoints. Wouldn't want one of those to let go 700 miles from home. Also, like everyone else has said, make sure all you're fluids are good.

j-radvw · 02-01-2010, 07:37 PM

theres no leaks or any thing but i have put 50xxx+ since i have had it

01cblue · 02-01-2010, 08:48 PM

How many miles ago was the timing belt changed? If you're right at the 60,000 mile mark or maybe a few thousand over, you'll be OK to just let it go until you get back from the trip. Many people go 70k-100k miles before changing it and have no problems; I wouldn't do this. I personally would change it if it was at or over 60k, but that's just me.

How old is the coolant? If it's more than 2-3 years old I'd change it or has more then 30,000 miles I'd change it.

Change the oil before your trip unless it's not due until a mileage that you suspect you won't surpass on your 1400 mile trip.

Check your tires for tread life; I wouldn't go on a 1400+ mile journey riding on tires that are down below 5/32 of an inch, but that's just me. 3/32 and sometimes 2/32 is considered "worn out". Make sure there are no gashes down to the belts or sidewall threads. Check for nails or any other tire issues such as tread separation, or irregularity. Tire problems are a safety issue that you'll need to address now, or else hundreds of miles from home on the side of the road. They could also indicate worn suspension components.

Lift up the car and inspect for worn out or broken bushings, balljoints, tie rod ends outer and inner.

How thick are your brake pads, front and rear? Take the wheels off and inspect the pads. Look for fluid leaks and have a look at the brake lines to be sure they aren't damaged, cracking or coming apart. Check the rest of the brake system for leaks too. How old is the brake fluid? If it's over 2-3 years old or has over 30,000 miles on it I'd flush it out.

Clutch fluid as well, 2-3 years or 30,000.

How's your alignment? Long highway trips might get rough if the car tends to pull, and you might be killing your tires.

95MEdition · 02-01-2010, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invert

Have brakes greased (mine ALWAYS break on long trips lol)

just curious what you meant by that? do you mean grease the slider pins in the calipers?

invert · 02-01-2010, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95MEdition

just curious what you meant by that? do you mean grease the slider pins in the calipers?

Yes, 1.6L brakes tend to seize. It happened to me while I was at the gap and oh man that was scary having almost no brakes in that 11 miles with 318 turns

You grease everything that slides. There's some special high heat grease made for that.

zoom2zoom · 02-02-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invert

Yes, 1.6L brakes tend to seize. It happened to me while I was at the gap and oh man that was scary having almost no brakes in that 11 miles with 318 turns

You grease everything that slides. There's some special high heat grease made for that.

It's called brake caliper lube, Permatex makes it in various sizes http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...per_Lube_1.htm

j-radvw · 02-03-2010, 10:45 PM

ok so im thanking about going a head and doing the TB and water pump, cam seals and front main seal.

im thinking about going with rspeeds water pump what do you all thank of it? and there cam seals.

i all ready have a gates racing TB.

and i cant seem to find a good price for the two TB pullies. and where can i get new springs?

i also cant find a front main seal.

3MiataFamily · 02-05-2010, 08:30 PM

Order up a complete kit from one of the numerous vendors over on ebay...less that $100 and you get everything you need. WP..Belt..idler pulleys..cam seals and front main..valve cover

Ricks Engine Parts is a good one to try...we installed 6 of these kits over the last couple years.

He might be stocking Miata kits again...he was out a couple months ago.

j-radvw · 02-15-2010, 07:33 PM

i have been looking at them but i dont know if i can let my self trust a ebay water pump. i all ready have a TB the only thing i cant find is the front main and BT springs/ TB pullies

Max_Power · 02-15-2010, 08:16 PM

I always get original Mazda parts... so that will be my suggestion

j-radvw · 02-25-2010, 06:07 PM

ok so i just bought the rspeed water pump, mazda cam and front main seals, springs and pullys also the new e3 spark pluge. im looking at replacing the head, theres a guy on here with one from a 90 with 94k on it. my car has a 91 auto engine in it. i was wondering if i would need to reuse the auto cams? and would i need a Cometic head gasket or would a Graphite one work? also will i need to replace the studs too?

iRoadster · 02-25-2010, 06:21 PM

So, where are you going?

I'm going to have to go down to SoCal in about a month for my Grandma's funeral and am heavily considering b-lining it down there on I-5 and then taking the PCH (Highway 1) on the way back.
I've yet to take my Miata on a long road trip and this would end up being about 2300 miles round trip.

emmi · 02-25-2010, 06:55 PM

bring an extra engine w/ u in the trunk. juss in case

j-radvw · 02-25-2010, 10:25 PM

destin florida

01-31-2010, 11:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
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zoom2zoom Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 2,435	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? I would just check the seals and hoses, if they aren't leaking and feel pliable you should be fine. A coolant flush and oil change should be sufficient, although overheating this time of year shouldn't be an issue.

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j-radvw Supporting Member #5522 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: patriot, Indiana Posts: 2,697	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? so its over kill? i have no leaks TB look great no sag its just that time 200xxx. i just thought i should be for i wint on the trip?
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Max_Power Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 3,818	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? Does the car leak oil? Have you done any maintenance? If it doesn't leak I wouldn't worry too much... Have you done the timing belt? If the car doesn't have any service history and has 200K on the clock I would do timing belt and water pump (and if you are there change the seals too). What is the TB? Do you mean throttle body?
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k.beaty Jr. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hamilton, ON Canada Posts: 97	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? I would check your tie-rods and balljoints. Wouldn't want one of those to let go 700 miles from home. Also, like everyone else has said, make sure all you're fluids are good.

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01cblue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 2,721	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? How many miles ago was the timing belt changed? If you're right at the 60,000 mile mark or maybe a few thousand over, you'll be OK to just let it go until you get back from the trip. Many people go 70k-100k miles before changing it and have no problems; I wouldn't do this. I personally would change it if it was at or over 60k, but that's just me. How old is the coolant? If it's more than 2-3 years old I'd change it or has more then 30,000 miles I'd change it. Change the oil before your trip unless it's not due until a mileage that you suspect you won't surpass on your 1400 mile trip. Check your tires for tread life; I wouldn't go on a 1400+ mile journey riding on tires that are down below 5/32 of an inch, but that's just me. 3/32 and sometimes 2/32 is considered "worn out". Make sure there are no gashes down to the belts or sidewall threads. Check for nails or any other tire issues such as tread separation, or irregularity. Tire problems are a safety issue that you'll need to address now, or else hundreds of miles from home on the side of the road. They could also indicate worn suspension components. Lift up the car and inspect for worn out or broken bushings, balljoints, tie rod ends outer and inner. How thick are your brake pads, front and rear? Take the wheels off and inspect the pads. Look for fluid leaks and have a look at the brake lines to be sure they aren't damaged, cracking or coming apart. Check the rest of the brake system for leaks too. How old is the brake fluid? If it's over 2-3 years old or has over 30,000 miles on it I'd flush it out. Clutch fluid as well, 2-3 years or 30,000. How's your alignment? Long highway trips might get rough if the car tends to pull, and you might be killing your tires.
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j-radvw Supporting Member #5522 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: patriot, Indiana Posts: 2,697	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? ok so im thanking about going a head and doing the TB and water pump, cam seals and front main seal. im thinking about going with rspeeds water pump what do you all thank of it? and there cam seals. i all ready have a gates racing TB. and i cant seem to find a good price for the two TB pullies. and where can i get new springs? i also cant find a front main seal.
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3MiataFamily Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 1,506	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? Order up a complete kit from one of the numerous vendors over on ebay...less that $100 and you get everything you need. WP..Belt..idler pulleys..cam seals and front main..valve cover Ricks Engine Parts is a good one to try...we installed 6 of these kits over the last couple years. He might be stocking Miata kits again...he was out a couple months ago.

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j-radvw Supporting Member #5522 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: patriot, Indiana Posts: 2,697	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? i have been looking at them but i dont know if i can let my self trust a ebay water pump. i all ready have a TB the only thing i cant find is the front main and BT springs/ TB pullies
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j-radvw Supporting Member #5522 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: patriot, Indiana Posts: 2,697	Re: long trip maintenance high mileage? ok so i just bought the rspeed water pump, mazda cam and front main seals, springs and pullys also the new e3 spark pluge. im looking at replacing the head, theres a guy on here with one from a 90 with 94k on it. my car has a 91 auto engine in it. i was wondering if i would need to reuse the auto cams? and would i need a Cometic head gasket or would a Graphite one work? also will i need to replace the studs too?
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