Trading NA for Jetta... - Page 2

tvelev92 · 12-18-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangleSnipeCelly

Test drove it today and the thing actually pulls and rides nice. He wants time to talk it over with his dad so I'll know by friday.

But my dumbass drifted it into a curb today... I think I bent or broke my lower control arm on the drivers side, when i slightly turn the wheel to the right, the passenger side wheel moves but drivers side doesnt. What could that be? Wanna be able to fix by Friday...

you broke the steering rod that goes to the rack and prolly some other stuff

karloz · 12-18-2012, 11:42 PM

Stay away man. I've owned 3 of the MKIIs which are much less complicated and easier to work on and it was still a love/hate ownership. I hate to say this, but if you want something FWD go with something jap like a Honda (yup, a Honda, sorry, but they are well built).

If you are aiming for an E30 or E36, as was suggested above, just drive the NA and save up.
And BTW, Bimmers love to rape wallets as well, but at least they are much better cars than VWs. And most importantly, they are also RWD.

horribleR · 12-18-2012, 11:45 PM

rwd 'tards ftl...

1vicissitude · 12-18-2012, 11:46 PM

Miata to a mkiv Jetta is the equivalent of going from "in the closet" to burning the closet down. Might as well buy a 2000 beetle.

Johnny2Bad · 12-18-2012, 11:47 PM

You know, why screw around. I've got a nice PT Cruiser I'll sell you. If you take out the back seats, you can put an entire Miata in one. Or a suitcase of cash ... dealer looks for those, you wait less for oil changes.

Less reliable than a Jetta, yet paradoxically more expensive to repair. I humbly suggest it's perfect for you.

Example: Dealer wants $700 for a radiator fan, yet the radiator fans break on every single example on the road. None the less, no dealer stocks them. See? You'll be in car-less heaven far more often than that Jetta thing. You gotta think big, man.

Hey, it was built when the Germans were running the show. That's why you need special coolant.

Since that's obviously the direction you want to move, I can effectively double his offer. I only wish it was an automatic trans ... that would TRIPLE the offer. Because it needs special ATF, or a week after you put in some generic stuff, the auto transmission explodes. (Unless you use the special ATF in the power steering instead of the generic stuff. Then the PS pump explodes).

Just ask any Ram owner ... they deleted the ability to even order a manual trans in the gas engine trucks. Reason was something about being "too reliable".

Home ownership is a con anyway. Why drive a cheap, reliable, fun car like a Miata while saving up for an asset of nebulous value? Medical emergencies? Google "self-surgery". Retirement? Getting old is a myth ... you're immortal.

Give the money to the Germans ... no, wait ... Italians instead.

Too Tall · 12-18-2012, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangleSnipeCelly

An E36 or nice E30. But, I honestly feel I could sell the Jetta faster and for more.

good luck finding a nice e30. especially without a cracked dash or some other "janky-ass" mods done to it for under $3K

I'd keep the miata and repair your control arm and call it day.

Johnny2Bad · 12-19-2012, 12:38 AM

Dealer Tech to Jetta Owner:
"Your Humberflatzen is conflicting mit you Shitzer Pantzen. Could be two, three, maybe more."

Owner to Dealer Tech:
"What do you mean, two, three?"

Dealer Tech to Jetta Owner:
"Or maybe more."

Owner to Dealer Tech:
"No, I mean ... two, three hundred? Two, three thousand?"

Dealer Tech to Owner:
"Ja. Or maybe more."

DangleSnipeCelly · 12-19-2012, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karloz

Stay away man. I've owned 3 of the MKIIs which are much less complicated and easier to work on and it was still a love/hate ownership. I hate to say this, but if you want something FWD go with something jap like a Honda (yup, a Honda, sorry, but they are well built).

If you are aiming for an E30 or E36, as was suggested above, just drive the NA and save up.
And BTW, Bimmers love to rape wallets as well, but at least they are much better cars than VWs. And most importantly, they are also RWD.

I traded my E30 for the NA, miss the E30 a ton. But what I plan to do is trade and sell, then buy a new project E30 or 510.

My original plan was to keep trading up after the E30 to the NA.

DangleSnipeCelly · 12-19-2012, 12:45 AM

And of course its a 5 speed....

LateNA · 12-19-2012, 01:31 AM

OP: "Hey guys, should I trade my Miata for this Jetta?"

Everyone: "NO!"

OP, see sig.

thetech · 12-19-2012, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangleSnipeCelly

I traded my E30 for the NA, miss the E30 a ton. But what I plan to do is trade and sell, then buy a new project E30 or 510.

My original plan was to keep trading up after the E30 to the NA.

I don't really know the condition of either your miata or the jetta, but in my area the least expensive miata right now is $3400, and the most expensive (non dealer) 2001 jetta is $3500. So I don't really know if you're going to "make" any more money. You also at this point probably have to fix your car, if the Jetta owner has to "talk to his dad", I doubt his parent is going to let him trade for an already broken, much older, less safe car.

ecto_cooler · 12-19-2012, 08:44 AM

op, please go.

karloz · 12-19-2012, 02:32 PM

I'm suprised you used to have an E30, went to a miata, and miss the E30.

I used to have an E30...and 37 other cars before my NA, and the only car I sorta miss from the bunch is an 85 RX7.

No way I would go back to the E30 from the miata...EVER.

Skinnyroadster · 12-19-2012, 03:01 PM

I think I have an itch on my ankle, but dont know if I should scratch it or not. Opinions?

33oh · 12-19-2012, 03:30 PM

This is my favorite emoticon today.

MOABmiata · 12-19-2012, 03:39 PM

I think you should trade it. If you're going to drift into curbs you belong in a FWD car anyways.

Also, your concept of directions is clearly flawed if you think going to an E30 is trading 'up' from a miata.

brontosaurus · 12-19-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOABmiata

I think you should trade it. If you're going to drift into curbs you belong in a FWD car anyways.

Also, your concept of directions is clearly flawed if you think going to an E30 is trading 'up' from a miata.

Nothing says "I've made it" like a 25 year old BMW.

concealer404 · 12-19-2012, 04:05 PM

LOL.

Wants to "trade up" and make money.

Has Miata.

Grand plan is to trade for a MK4 Jetta and then "arrive" in a nice E30.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Good luck. Do it. Post your success stories here so we can all laugh at y- errrr i mean congratulate you.

DangleSnipeCelly · 12-20-2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetech

I don't really know the condition of either your miata or the jetta, but in my area the least expensive miata right now is $3400, and the most expensive (non dealer) 2001 jetta is $3500. So I don't really know if you're going to "make" any more money. You also at this point probably have to fix your car, if the Jetta owner has to "talk to his dad", I doubt his parent is going to let him trade for an already broken, much older, less safe car.

Miatas in my neck of the woods are on CL for 2500-4000, mine is definitely not in the best condition body wise, has two big dents and quite a few little ones.

The Jetta on the other hand is clean, no dents. And on CL here, theres about 5 VR6s on there ranging from 4500-6000

And about being broken, I put in a new control arm today which was one of the problems, but I'm pretty sure it has a bent tie rod because the wheels seem to like veering off left or right if I let go of the steering wheel.

concealer404 · 12-21-2012, 08:48 AM

I have a better idea. I go out and buy a MK4 Jetta, and i trade you for your Miata. You like?

ecto_cooler · 12-21-2012, 08:54 AM

get an e30 man. cheaper for you and it's his ultimate goal from the trading game.

concealer404 · 12-21-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecto_cooler

get an e30 man. cheaper for you and it's his ultimate goal from the trading game.

E30s worth buying are a pretty penny.

Clean MK4 Jettas are worth about a dollar because they're piles of shit.

heyitsryan · 12-21-2012, 09:04 AM

roffles ^

My mom had three golfs with the same motor, all THREE of them caught fire before hitting 16k miles. ALL THREE OF THEM.

ecto_cooler · 12-21-2012, 09:04 AM

dude, clean is obiously subjective. i can get an outwardly nice car for under a grand here. cut the springs, give it a wash and it might be worth 4x what you paid to the OP. get some cash with the miata to fix the dorifto damage.

LateNA · 12-21-2012, 12:55 PM

Why are we still here? Some people, no matter how much guidance, just constantly make bad life decisions. I think OP is one of those people. Let him be.

33oh · 12-21-2012, 01:20 PM

In his defense, they did just legalize in Washington. The Mk4 would hold a lot more food.

concealer404 · 12-21-2012, 01:21 PM

ACQUIRE ALL THE CHEETOS

Bee · 12-21-2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karloz

I'm suprised you used to have an E30, went to a miata, and miss the E30.

I used to have an E30...and 37 other cars before my NA, and the only car I sorta miss from the bunch is an 85 RX7.

No way I would go back to the E30 from the miata...EVER.

I miss my 83 so much

It was riced to shit so I dont miss how it looked (that and my friend who bought it from me fucked it up) but man would I love to get my hands on another one.

redfred18t · 12-21-2012, 02:57 PM

I had a mk4 jetta, but the miata is way better

AnonymousOne · 12-22-2012, 03:00 PM

Dearest OP: May the fleas of 10,000 camels infest your crotch and your arms be too short to scratch.

12-18-2012, 11:42 PM	#32 (permalink)
karloz Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 137	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... Stay away man. I've owned 3 of the MKIIs which are much less complicated and easier to work on and it was still a love/hate ownership. I hate to say this, but if you want something FWD go with something jap like a Honda (yup, a Honda, sorry, but they are well built). If you are aiming for an E30 or E36, as was suggested above, just drive the NA and save up. And BTW, Bimmers love to rape wallets as well, but at least they are much better cars than VWs. And most importantly, they are also RWD.

12-18-2012, 11:45 PM	#33 (permalink)
horribleR Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,472	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... rwd 'tards ftl...
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12-18-2012, 11:46 PM	#34 (permalink)
1vicissitude brontosaurus Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Anaheim hills, CA Posts: 7,114	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... Miata to a mkiv Jetta is the equivalent of going from "in the closet" to burning the closet down. Might as well buy a 2000 beetle.

12-18-2012, 11:47 PM	#35 (permalink)
Johnny2Bad Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Saskatoon SK (Canada) Posts: 320	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... You know, why screw around. I've got a nice PT Cruiser I'll sell you. If you take out the back seats, you can put an entire Miata in one. Or a suitcase of cash ... dealer looks for those, you wait less for oil changes. Less reliable than a Jetta, yet paradoxically more expensive to repair. I humbly suggest it's perfect for you. Example: Dealer wants $700 for a radiator fan, yet the radiator fans break on every single example on the road. None the less, no dealer stocks them. See? You'll be in car-less heaven far more often than that Jetta thing. You gotta think big, man. Hey, it was built when the Germans were running the show. That's why you need special coolant. Since that's obviously the direction you want to move, I can effectively double his offer. I only wish it was an automatic trans ... that would TRIPLE the offer. Because it needs special ATF, or a week after you put in some generic stuff, the auto transmission explodes. (Unless you use the special ATF in the power steering instead of the generic stuff. Then the PS pump explodes). Just ask any Ram owner ... they deleted the ability to even order a manual trans in the gas engine trucks. Reason was something about being "too reliable". Home ownership is a con anyway. Why drive a cheap, reliable, fun car like a Miata while saving up for an asset of nebulous value? Medical emergencies? Google "self-surgery". Retirement? Getting old is a myth ... you're immortal. Give the money to the Germans ... no, wait ... Italians instead.
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12-19-2012, 12:38 AM	#37 (permalink)
Johnny2Bad Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Saskatoon SK (Canada) Posts: 320	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... Dealer Tech to Jetta Owner: "Your Humberflatzen is conflicting mit you Shitzer Pantzen. Could be two, three, maybe more." Owner to Dealer Tech: "What do you mean, two, three?" Dealer Tech to Jetta Owner: "Or maybe more." Owner to Dealer Tech: "No, I mean ... two, three hundred? Two, three thousand?" Dealer Tech to Owner: "Ja. Or maybe more."

12-19-2012, 12:45 AM	#39 (permalink)
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12-19-2012, 08:44 AM	#42 (permalink)
ecto_cooler Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,156	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... op, please go.
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12-19-2012, 02:32 PM	#43 (permalink)
karloz Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 137	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... I'm suprised you used to have an E30, went to a miata, and miss the E30. I used to have an E30...and 37 other cars before my NA, and the only car I sorta miss from the bunch is an 85 RX7. No way I would go back to the E30 from the miata...EVER.

12-19-2012, 03:30 PM	#45 (permalink)
33oh Viva la Resistance! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dover, OH Posts: 2,264	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... This is my favorite emoticon today.
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12-19-2012, 03:39 PM	#46 (permalink)
MOABmiata Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 262	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... I think you should trade it. If you're going to drift into curbs you belong in a FWD car anyways. Also, your concept of directions is clearly flawed if you think going to an E30 is trading 'up' from a miata.
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12-21-2012, 08:54 AM	#51 (permalink)
ecto_cooler Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,156	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... get an e30 man. cheaper for you and it's his ultimate goal from the trading game.
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12-21-2012, 09:04 AM	#53 (permalink)
heyitsryan Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,164	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... roffles ^ My mom had three golfs with the same motor, all THREE of them caught fire before hitting 16k miles. ALL THREE OF THEM.

12-21-2012, 09:04 AM	#54 (permalink)
ecto_cooler Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,156	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... dude, clean is obiously subjective. i can get an outwardly nice car for under a grand here. cut the springs, give it a wash and it might be worth 4x what you paid to the OP. get some cash with the miata to fix the dorifto damage.
	__________________ *life is bitch!* ^ stickers being made.

12-21-2012, 01:20 PM	#56 (permalink)
33oh Viva la Resistance! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dover, OH Posts: 2,264	Re: Trading NA for Jetta... In his defense, they did just legalize in Washington. The Mk4 would hold a lot more food.
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12-21-2012, 02:57 PM	#59 (permalink)
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