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Old 04-01-2015, 01:02 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Huh.

Ours are on sale right now. No bronze bushing tho. http://www.mossmiata.com/Shop/ViewPr...IndexID=119095
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Or that your car even has the right 6spd in it... Buddy got the "wrong" shifter from 5x Racing last month. Turns out it was exactly what he ordered, but his car didn't have the original transmission.
This. Reminds me of the moment I realized that it is nearly impossible to have a 'numbers matching' Miata. At 73K miles I think I have the original transmission but who knows...

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Well considering that Rev9 wants $45 shipped for the bushing vs 5x racing $30 for it, is it worth the $15 difference if it is for a normal 5 speed or did those have some discrepancies as well?

Are there any advantages in feel from a bronze bushing vs a good condition plastic one or is the difference longevity?
I personally would get the bushing from Rev9. If $15 sways your budget there are other issues at hand. The Beatrush bushing has been proven to be worth the money time and time again.

To answer your other question, yes, in conjunction with... A completely rebuilt shifter in conjunction with a properly weighted shift knob and a bronze bushing will change your life forever. A completely rebuild shifter in conjunction with a properly weighted shift knob and an OEM plastic bushing will change your life for a short period of time. Proper turret oil is also key in conjunction with the above statements.
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Or simply put, if you are going to rebuild your shifter -

Get the bushing from Rev9
Get the other parts/pieces from Rosenthal
Get the lube from Ben and/or heed his recommendation

Do it once. Do it right.

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This. Reminds me of the moment I realized that it is nearly impossible to have a 'numbers matching' Miata. At 73K miles I think I have the original transmission but who knows...



I personally would get the bushing from Rev9. If $15 sways your budget there are other issues at hand. The Beatrush bushing has been proven to be worth the money time and time again.

To answer your other question, yes, in conjunction with... A completely rebuilt shifter in conjunction with a properly weighted shift knob and a bronze bushing will change your life forever. A completely rebuild shifter in conjunction with a properly weighted shift knob and an OEM plastic bushing will change your life for a short period of time. Proper turret oil is also key in conjunction with the above statements.
Its not that that will sway my budget more so one option is 50% more money for no apparent reason. In all likely hood I would take your advise and buy the beatrush one but I was simply asking the question all things being equal, why is one option 50% more expensive?
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Then as a follow up question, @Ben, what is the recommended turret fluid for a Na6 5 speed, and if anyone know what is the forum recommended turret fluid for a NC 6 speed?
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Well considering that Rev9 wants $45 shipped for the bushing vs 5x racing $30 for it, is it worth the $15 difference if it is for a normal 5 speed or did those have some discrepancies as well?

Are there any advantages in feel from a bronze bushing vs a good condition plastic one or is the difference longevity?
5spd = buy whatever you want.

There is a difference in feel AND longevity.

It's my opinion that the OEM plastic bushing lasts about... 2 weeks.
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Its not that that will sway my budget more so one option is 50% more money for no apparent reason. In all likely hood I would take your advise and buy the beatrush one but I was simply asking the question all things being equal, why is one option 50% more expensive?
I'm trying really hard to not derail this thread as I've come to really appreciate your idea for this type of thread. That said, in my opinion, you are asking the right question in the wrong direction. The bushing is a one time purchase and it costs X. Always has and always will. And there isn't a single unsatisfied customer. You should have concern that there is now an alternative that costs Y. Not dinging 5xRacing but having a bushing 50% less doesn't equate to an equal product that just happens to cost less.

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5spd = buy whatever you want.

There is a difference in feel AND longevity.

It's my opinion that the OEM plastic bushing lasts about... 2 blocks/laps/shifts.
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Then as a follow up question, @Ben, what is the recommended turret fluid for a Na6 5 speed, and if anyone know what is the forum recommended turret fluid for a NC 6 speed?
I use the same fluids in the turret as i put in the transmission.
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I use the same fluids in the turret as i put in the transmission.
And your recommendation on that would be?
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I'm trying really hard to not derail this thread as I've come to really appreciate your idea for this type of thread. That said, in my opinion, you are asking the right question in the wrong direction. The bushing is a one time purchase and it costs X. Always has and always will. And there isn't a single unsatisfied customer. You should have concern that there is now an alternative that costs Y. Not dinging 5xRacing but having a bushing 50% less doesn't equate to an equal product that just happens to cost less.
Alright point taken, for a one time purchase that is $15 more buy the better option and be happy with it knowing that it is tried and true. That would help me sleep at night.
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Also: I pay $8 for all 6 bronze bushings for the MX6. Corksport charges $40+ for only 4 out of the 6.

Trust me when i say in my situation, after i figured things out, i wondered why Corksport's option was almost 10x the price.

This isn't exactly the same situation, because the Miata bushings actually have to be made by someone FOR a Miata, but...

Just use some critical thinking. There isn't a wrong answer here, as long as it doesn't involve a plastic bushing. Make sense?
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Just use some critical thinking. There isn't a wrong answer here, as long as it doesn't involve a plastic bushing or aluminum bushing. Make sense?
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^Yeah, that!

I refuse to acknowledge the existence of aluminum bushings.
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Are you guys talking about stuff in Moss' kit? I rebuilt my shifter 1K ago with our kit, with no problems. Personal preference is one thing, but I'm not sure about the info that something in our kit will cause a failure or something.
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Are you guys talking about stuff in Moss' kit? I rebuilt my shifter 1K ago with our kit, with no problems. Personal preference is one thing, but I'm not sure about the info that something in our kit will cause a failure or something.
No no, your kit is fine. I've even ordered it before.

I just don't like the longevity of the plastic bushings, and aluminum makes for a shitty bushing material.

Bronze or plastic is the way to go. Bronze won't wear out. Plastic won't destroy your shit when it wears.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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Or simply put, if you are going to rebuild your shifter -

Get the bushing from Rev9
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Get the lube from Ben and/or heed his recommendation

Do it once. Do it right.

Rebuild your shifter!
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anyone know if the Corbeau CR1's will fit in an 04 MSM, i got a chance to get a set silly cheap and was just curious
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1999 California emissions, replace manifold with a +01 manifold.If I use the original oil dip stick will the reading be correct?


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Should I get out more?
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I was just wondering the same thing.
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Are you asking if you replace either the intake manifold or the exhaust manifold that there might be a chance that somehow the engine oil may render the dipstick useless?

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'99 California emissions. Swapped the exhaust manifold for a +01. Do I need to change the oil dip stick for a Federal in order to get a correct reading?

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Stoly, Why can't you brain this? Are they not different, one bends and the other doesn't. In any event, thanks for the reply..wait no reply to a question.
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Pretty sure you're just tugging our legs, but the two have nothing to do with each other.
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The dipstick doesn't go in your exhaust manifold.


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Stoly, Why can't you brain this? Are they not different, one bends and the other doesn't. In any event, thanks for the reply..wait no reply to a question.
I already answered. The answer is no.

My question is this. How does hot gas exiting the internal combustion engine have anything to do with the dipstick reading? Take the exhaust header off and run it that way. Straight pipes. Fart can. Land Cruiser snorkel intake zip tied to the a-piller. SuperTrapp with any combination of plates... I don't see how any of that has to do with the dipstick reading.

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This, I think... Starting to question my own sanity at this point...
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