VRTL installed.

CE28N · 07-09-2006, 02:43 AM

With Bill's help tonight, we installed the VRTL onto my car. Installation was a PITA, but it's all pretty straight forward. I have it set on the itb setting. The car does respond quicker and feels more lively. Great throttle response. Definately a worth mod in my opinion. It feels like the car is pulling harder, but I know it's an illusion due to fact that the throttle opens wider now with less pedal travel. It doesn't increase performance, but I like how the car feels. It gets a big thumbs up from me.

Thanks again to Bill for the help and Tony for instruction over the phone.

acejoker · 07-09-2006, 03:19 AM

Very cool!
Any bog issues so far going WOT ?

found a great write up http://home.att.net/~biggulp2/BGPP_VRTL_Gen3_99_up.pdf

ExHondaMan · 07-09-2006, 03:53 AM

Nice! I've been looking into that.

Website doesn't clearly mention if it will work on a 1990. Can anyone comment?

Greg G · 07-09-2006, 07:42 AM

Is it or is it not out of production? If it is, is someone gonna pick up the slack? :wink:

asianrice02 · 07-09-2006, 01:48 PM

pics pics pics! or vids. You got me interested.

stock ecu?

LUV2TURN · 07-09-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianrice02 @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:48 pm

pics pics pics! or vids. You got me interested.

stock ecu?

Why the hell would it not work on any Miata? Or any car for that matter...

07-09-2006, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg G @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:42 am

Is it or is it not out of production? If it is, is someone gonna pick up the slack? :wink:

Neither CE28N or I could get a response from the manufacturer, "Big Gulp" (according to M2-1028, a guy named Richard Wong) since 4/06. Why or how he continues to be a M.net sponsor is a mystery...

See my original thread for the history:

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32

07-09-2006, 10:46 PM

[quote="LUV2TURN @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:03 pm"]

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianrice02 @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:48 pm

Why the hell would it not work on any Miata? Or any car for that matter...

It's designed very specifically to fit the Miata throttle cable pulley. See pics on my original thread:

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32

asianrice02 · 07-10-2006, 08:36 AM

i'd like to see it in action. ace asked if it bogs. i guess that ce28n has not fully tested the thing.

WTF? The site has not been updated since 10/17/04 :shock:

according to their g-tech pro their is some postive gains. any update would be cool

LUV2TURN · 07-10-2006, 07:17 PM

[quote="Bill Wilner @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:46 pm"]

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2TURN @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:03 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianrice02 @ Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:48 pm

Why the hell would it not work on any Miata? Or any car for that matter...

It's designed very specifically to fit the Miata throttle cable pulley. See pics on my original thread:

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32

Oh, I know that, but I'm just saying, it's simply a different throttle cam. What I was kind of getting at is: are different model year Miata's different enough that this VRTL only works on some of them.

Also, it should have no effect on the ECU, unless perhaps the TPS can't send data quickly enough to the ECU if a very quick input is given.

07-10-2006, 07:43 PM

http://biggulp.home.att.net/vrtl.htm

"Testing has been done on all model years, including the 1.6, 94-97 and 99-04 cars."
"All years and models $95."

Too bad they don't answer emails...

asianrice02 · 07-10-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Wilner @ Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:43 pm

http://biggulp.home.att.net/vrtl.htm

"Testing has been done on all model years, including the 1.6, 94-97 and 99-04 cars."
"All years and models $95."

Too bad they don't answer emails...

but you bought it w/ success? w/out contact from the dealer?

sonique128 · 07-11-2006, 12:18 AM

Isn't this the same eqivilent as tightening the throttle cable (excuse my car newbieness)?

How are you pulling on those FF machines now Peter?

CE28N · 07-11-2006, 02:52 AM

There is no bogging issue for me. Acceleration is stronger with the first 60% travel of the pedal. Then the pedal gets harder to push for the remaining 40%. The engine responses better, great throttle feel. It doesn't make any power, just feels stronger. It's all about how you feel in a car, right?

asianrice02 · 07-11-2006, 03:17 AM

40% is there any strain w/ the throttle cable?

07-09-2006, 02:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
CE28N Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,429	VRTL installed. With Bill's help tonight, we installed the VRTL onto my car. Installation was a PITA, but it's all pretty straight forward. I have it set on the itb setting. The car does respond quicker and feels more lively. Great throttle response. Definately a worth mod in my opinion. It feels like the car is pulling harder, but I know it's an illusion due to fact that the throttle opens wider now with less pedal travel. It doesn't increase performance, but I like how the car feels. It gets a big thumbs up from me. Thanks again to Bill for the help and Tony for instruction over the phone.
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07-09-2006, 03:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
acejoker Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Temple City, CA Posts: 519	Re: VRTL installed. Very cool! Any bog issues so far going WOT ? found a great write up http://home.att.net/~biggulp2/BGPP_VRTL_Gen3_99_up.pdf
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07-09-2006, 07:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
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07-09-2006, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
asianrice02 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Guam Posts: 1,051	pics pics pics! or vids. You got me interested. stock ecu?
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07-10-2006, 08:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
asianrice02 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Guam Posts: 1,051	i'd like to see it in action. ace asked if it bogs. i guess that ce28n has not fully tested the thing. WTF? The site has not been updated since 10/17/04 :shock: according to their g-tech pro their is some postive gains. any update would be cool
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07-10-2006, 07:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
MiataRoadster Guest Posts: n/a	Re: VRTL installed. http://biggulp.home.att.net/vrtl.htm "Testing has been done on all model years, including the 1.6, 94-97 and 99-04 cars." "All years and models $95." Too bad they don't answer emails...
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07-11-2006, 12:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
sonique128 Esteemed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,379	Isn't this the same eqivilent as tightening the throttle cable (excuse my car newbieness)? How are you pulling on those FF machines now Peter?
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07-11-2006, 02:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
CE28N Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,429	There is no bogging issue for me. Acceleration is stronger with the first 60% travel of the pedal. Then the pedal gets harder to push for the remaining 40%. The engine responses better, great throttle feel. It doesn't make any power, just feels stronger. It's all about how you feel in a car, right?
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07-11-2006, 03:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
asianrice02 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Guam Posts: 1,051	40% is there any strain w/ the throttle cable?
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