Kind of Important Question

Skinnyroadster · 05-29-2008, 12:08 PM

I was taking out my a/c today and I was going to take the bracket off that holds it to the engine (I even bought a new 50mm 8x1.25 to put in its place), then decided that I'd just leave it on since it was the last thing to take off and I already wrestled the compressor out. Well screwing back on the bolt that goes into the front of the engine the damn thing snaps at the threads. WTF Fail.

How important is this bolt?

Thanks guys.

Skinnyroadster · 05-29-2008, 03:03 PM

I have a feeling it kinda is necessary. Do you think I can still drive the car till I get it drilled out, tapped and replaced?

Stealth97 · 05-29-2008, 05:36 PM

Important. it looks like the bolt that goes through the front of the A/C bracket into the oil pump. you will leak with out it.

Skinnyroadster · 05-29-2008, 05:40 PM

hmm, well I have all of the threads in the hole as you can see. so it shouldnt leak, but I'm going to have to fix that.

Anyone want to extract this in the Orlando area?

I am sure its this bolt (rusman your engine is sexy)

FordDesignGuru · 05-29-2008, 10:45 PM

I never new that bolt was supposed to go back in... I've been running for a month with out it!
Damn, did I do something wrong?
1.6 w/ AC removed.

mazdamitch333 · 05-30-2008, 07:08 AM

haha i ended up with the same thingafter i did my water pump. I had it all put together and looked down and found that same bolt laying there. I stuck it back in a hole that looked good and itfit so luckily it looks like its in the right place.

Skinnyroadster · 05-30-2008, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordDesignGuru @ Thu May 29, 2008 22:45

I never new that bolt was supposed to go back in... I've been running for a month with out it!
Damn, did I do something wrong?
1.6 w/ AC removed.

Okay, well if you have been running for a month with no problems, that gives me a little bit of time to get the damn thing extracted and a new one in.

No oil is leaking from what I can tell, now all I need is one of those little 90 degree drills as its one hell of a tight fit.

FordDesignGuru · 06-02-2008, 09:11 PM

Yep, that stupid bolt hole did LEAK OIL - not good. My son just put the bolt back in moments ago.

I think you put the wrong length bolt back into the block - the shorter bolt goes into the engine - that 50mm bolt held the compressor to the bracket. You may have snapped it off because you bottomed it out(?). But I think you can just leave it in there...

wildfire0310 · 06-02-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordDesignGuru @ Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:11 pm

Yep, that stupid bolt hole did LEAK OIL - not good. My son just put the bolt back in moments ago.

I think you put the wrong length bolt back into the block - the shorter bolt goes into the engine - that 50mm bolt held the compressor to the bracket. You may have snapped it off because you bottomed it out(?). But I think you can just leave it in there...

i think your right. i just walk out and looked at my 99 1.8l motor. The bolt is not there but you can see that its not a deep. Max of like 2". Tomorrow I will try and tread a bolt into the whole and give an idea of the length

Skinnyroadster · 06-03-2008, 09:27 AM

yeah the four bolts that hold the compresor to the bracket and the one that goes into the front of the engine all look exactly the same, except the one that goes into the front is like 10mm shorter.

You could see my confusion while laying on my back in the hot florida sun.

It snapped clean at the treads, I am going to take the bracket off either today or tomorrow and see if the threads sits flush or is sunken in a bit, then think of my plan of attack to getting it out.

Skinnyroadster · 06-03-2008, 11:08 AM

Well this kinda sucks. its in there somewhere, oh and no leaking oil, yay.

FordDesignGuru · 06-04-2008, 10:37 AM

I am not sure why you would need to pull it out? If enough of the bolt is in there to keep it from leaking then you should be good?
Well, maybe that bolt is supposed to hold the pump together? If that is the case perhaps you should extract/replace it because it will not be doing it's job without a head on it.

Ben91 · 06-04-2008, 11:33 AM

I would monitor it for leaks. That bolt was loose on my car, and I got an oil leak. A friend of mine removed it with his A/C delete, and his car shot oil like a spigot.
Though one of the guys I work with removed it on both his cars and doesn't have a leak on either.
Point being, if it doesn't leak, I wouldn't go through the trouble of extracting it.

Skinnyroadster · 06-04-2008, 12:17 PM

No, I am going to go through the trouble of extracting it. I didnt pull the a/c out half assed so I am not going to leave a half asses stud broken in the block.

Ben91 · 06-04-2008, 01:12 PM

Cool, that's probably the right way to go. Good luck with the extraction, Doctor.

FordDesignGuru · 06-05-2008, 08:48 PM

Skinnyroadster,
You have high standards as a mechanic.
You can work on my car anytime!

Skinnyroadster · 06-06-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordDesignGuru @ Thu Jun 05, 2008 20:48

Skinnyroadster,
You have high standards as a mechanic.
You can work on my car anytime!

I wouldnt say that, but I try my best....which usually results in some kinda fuck up, like this bolt in question. If I was still up in michigan I'd be down to help out.

silverslider · 06-06-2008, 09:59 AM

does this only hold true of 1.8 or do 1.6 need that bolt also

Skinnyroadster · 06-06-2008, 11:05 AM

FordDesign said that their 1.6L was leaking oil, my 1.8 has no leaks

silverslider · 06-06-2008, 11:12 AM

well the odd part is i took mine out last summer and the only thing that leaks on mine is the front of the oil pan gasket below the crank. one bolt had a little oil on it when removed but has never leaked since.

Skinnyroadster · 06-06-2008, 11:24 AM

read the post. I already have a new bolt but half the other is stuck in there

wademunkey · 06-07-2008, 07:48 AM

I am pretty sure that that bolt has to be like 45mm to work properly. 50mm will bottom out, and 40mm will not go in far enough. It does go into the oil pump on the engine.
Andrew

Skinnyroadster · 06-07-2008, 08:08 AM

no its 50mm

FordDesignGuru · 06-07-2008, 06:10 PM

OK, my son confesses that the bolt still sticks out about 10mm. He seated it tight, but was careful not to break it off

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I think I am going to have him put a stack of washers on it (?)

XCLR8TN · 06-07-2008, 07:39 PM

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Skinnyroadster · 06-07-2008, 10:51 PM

there should be five bolts that look the same, four that hold the compressor to the bracket (the long ones) and one that goes into the front of the engine...this is the shorter one, looks to be around 10mm shorter.

maybe I'll take some pics of the bolts tomorrow

05-29-2008, 05:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
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05-29-2008, 10:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
FordDesignGuru who moved my Pinto? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: A2 Michigan Posts: 555	I never new that bolt was supposed to go back in... I've been running for a month with out it! Damn, did I do something wrong? 1.6 w/ AC removed.
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05-30-2008, 07:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
mazdamitch333 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 749	haha i ended up with the same thingafter i did my water pump. I had it all put together and looked down and found that same bolt laying there. I stuck it back in a hole that looked good and itfit so luckily it looks like its in the right place.
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06-02-2008, 09:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
FordDesignGuru who moved my Pinto? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: A2 Michigan Posts: 555	Yep, that stupid bolt hole did LEAK OIL - not good. My son just put the bolt back in moments ago. I think you put the wrong length bolt back into the block - the shorter bolt goes into the engine - that 50mm bolt held the compressor to the bracket. You may have snapped it off because you bottomed it out(?). But I think you can just leave it in there...
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06-04-2008, 10:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
FordDesignGuru who moved my Pinto? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: A2 Michigan Posts: 555	I am not sure why you would need to pull it out? If enough of the bolt is in there to keep it from leaking then you should be good? Well, maybe that bolt is supposed to hold the pump together? If that is the case perhaps you should extract/replace it because it will not be doing it's job without a head on it.
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06-04-2008, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ben91 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 271	I would monitor it for leaks. That bolt was loose on my car, and I got an oil leak. A friend of mine removed it with his A/C delete, and his car shot oil like a spigot. Though one of the guys I work with removed it on both his cars and doesn't have a leak on either. Point being, if it doesn't leak, I wouldn't go through the trouble of extracting it.
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06-04-2008, 01:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ben91 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 271	Cool, that's probably the right way to go. Good luck with the extraction, Doctor.
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06-05-2008, 08:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
FordDesignGuru who moved my Pinto? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: A2 Michigan Posts: 555	Skinnyroadster, You have high standards as a mechanic. You can work on my car anytime!
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06-06-2008, 09:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
silverslider CR.net Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: abingdon MD Posts: 575	Re: Kind of Important Question does this only hold true of 1.8 or do 1.6 need that bolt also

06-06-2008, 11:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
silverslider CR.net Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: abingdon MD Posts: 575	Re: Kind of Important Question well the odd part is i took mine out last summer and the only thing that leaks on mine is the front of the oil pan gasket below the crank. one bolt had a little oil on it when removed but has never leaked since.

06-07-2008, 07:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
wademunkey Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marrietta Ga Posts: 185	I am pretty sure that that bolt has to be like 45mm to work properly. 50mm will bottom out, and 40mm will not go in far enough. It does go into the oil pump on the engine. Andrew

06-07-2008, 06:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
FordDesignGuru who moved my Pinto? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: A2 Michigan Posts: 555	OK, my son confesses that the bolt still sticks out about 10mm. He seated it tight, but was careful not to break it off . I think I am going to have him put a stack of washers on it (?)
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