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Old 01-15-2013, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For a while my 2nd gear has been having an issue, when shifting into 2nd gear there is a grind that occurs if not careful when making the shift. When shifting it will feel that the shift has gone in & hear the thud of it going in & then it grinds. Typically when driving I'll put it into 2nd gear & hold the knob in place to be assured that the shift doesn't grind. Not doing half assed shifts when driving but it just seems unusual it grinds like that. All the other gears don't have the same issue I have had with that one. I was told it could possibly be the 2nd gear synchros?
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Could be. My car has done something similar to what you're describing since I bought it. Changed my tranny fluid and turret oil, rebuilt the shifter, didn't help. Mine is worst when it's cold, I have to be extremely careful when I'm driving to class on cold mornings.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Probably so. Mine is a newer '03 transmission. Just got swapped a few months ago. Might just take it back into get checked.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My dad's 94 Land Rover had the same issue. Went into gear fine, just ground every time unless your double clutched. Tried changing fluid but it didn't help. Turned out to be syncros, and he ended up selling the car to avoid any more issues with it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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My car does this when it's cold, it doesn't grind, but it feels like trying to pull a butter knife through rubber, it goes in, just takes a second, it literally only does this the first 1-2 shift of the day, every other time it acts just like normal. Unless I let it sit for a 6+ hours, then it will do it again, but only just that first shift.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It's probably synchros, we usually try a gear oil called Swepco in crunchy transmissions. It's not cheap, $20-ish per litre in Canada, but it's fixed a lot of grinding transmissions and saved the owners the cost of a transmission rebuild/replacement.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Where could I possibly get a liter of Swepco 717 gear oil? I'm also going to call back the place I got the swap at. I didn't have this issue with my old transmission.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My 2nd gear grinds in the morning if I dont let it warm up for a couple of minutes. Also if you feel like its getting worse, just shift from 1st > 3rd until the car fully warms up.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Where could I possibly get a liter of Swepco 717 gear oil? I'm also going to call back the place I got the swap at. I didn't have this issue with my old transmission.
Try emailing Swepco and asking about sellers in your area, or call performance/specialty shops near you and ask if they sell, or know somewhere that does.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have the same problem on cold mornings and after it's been sitting, but I'm thinking it's the clutch master/slave that's the problem.

Anybody else have a lot of neutral play in their clutch pedal?
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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change your transmission and differential fluid to a good synthetic. I always recommend ENEOS gear oil or Redline MT-90. It makes all the difference and the shift from 1st to second will be like night and day.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well the transmission has a Redline MT-90 fluid when it was replaced. I'm going to actually email Swepco about transmission fluid for purchase.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Mine started doing this after MT90 fluid change. Much worse when cold, seems fine when it gets worm. I find think that fluid likes being cold.
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