HIDs with Moss Low pro

onefasazn · 08-16-2006, 10:54 AM

I saw that the Moss lowpros have a projector unit.

Just wondering if anyone that has these is using HIDs. Id like to see what the output looks like, what kit is being used, etc

Max_Power · 08-16-2006, 11:26 AM

I think quite a few people, you need a kit for H9 and you can find them through ebay for around $400 (I think)...

Agent935 · 08-16-2006, 08:17 PM

There are two ways to do it actually. The first is buying a conversion kit. It's definaltely the cheaper option. The second is to buy actuall Hella 90mm hid units for both high and low beams and replace the halogen ones with them. They sell them at rally lights and it runs almost $500 per light. That'd be almost $2k for a full setup, which is spendy; but it would yeild a superior beam pattern.

onefasazn · 08-17-2006, 11:17 AM

I probably would only do it for the low beams, I think lo and hi would be a LOT of light.

I was looking at Rally lights a while ago but I had lost the link, thanks for posting it.

Does anyone have a pic of light patterns and output?

Help is much appreciated. Thanks

Agent935 · 08-17-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefasazn @ Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:17 am

I probably would only do it for the low beams, I think lo and hi would be a LOT of light.

hehehe yes... it would!

mazspeed · 08-19-2006, 12:04 AM

Im planning on putting hid's on my hella projectors also. Heres the best detailed how-to I found so far

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58041

Max_Power · 08-19-2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazspeed @ Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:04 pm

Im planning on putting hid's on my hella projectors also. Heres the best detailed how-to I found so far

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58041

OMG this guy is nuts

=D>
...and I thought that I'm spending too much time on my car

onefasazn · 08-19-2006, 04:01 AM

yeah ok I dont think it will be that involved putting HIDs in the Lowpros. Seems like you'll just have to change the projector out (to keep the beam pattern legal)

Thats the main reason I would like to see pics. I dont want the light dispersal too wide or high.

Max_Power · 08-19-2006, 05:28 AM

No wait, to put HID in the low pros it should be very easy!

You just have to buy the right kit for the H9 and it should be straight replacement!
The HID kits for the H9 have the light in the same spot (not deeper) so as a result the beam is the same, just more bright!

Road Cone · 08-19-2006, 09:55 AM

I'm also interested in this mod.
Group buy on the kit?

If you guys know what kit is necessary I can obtain some group pricing.

onefasazn · 08-19-2006, 03:38 PM

Im probably just going to save towards the Hella 90mm HID projectors to stick in there. Some may call me stupid for spending a bit more than I should, but I want OEM quality components.

Unless the cheap Filipino comes out in me and I end up going with one of those cheap kits....

12-06-2006, 02:06 AM

As was stated earlier in this thread, there are several ways to add Xenon/HID's. The first, cheapest would be to buy Cloated Halogen Bulbs like Sylvania's. They should improve lighting and give somewhat of a Xenon color. Now for the real options, the most cost effective would be to purchase an H9 conversion kit. This method would be pretty simple. Replacing each Ballast in the Moss kit would most probably produce some nice light, but how practical is it to spend so much money. Check out this site, it is really informative for lighting conversions of all types...http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/ As far as converting just the Low-Beams to Xenon/HID, that is realistically the best solution. Even on high-end vehicles equipped with Xenon/HID, the High-Beams are usually Halogen. Because the High-Beam is used to flash, it needs to be instant on and off. Xenon/HID bulbs take a few seconds to heat and fully light up, not practical. On BMW's, take a look at their Xenon/HID Angel Eye design. The outer ballasts are the HID low beams, the inner ballasts are halogen high beams.

I would love to see a NA with a Moss Low kit and HID's

12-06-2006, 03:14 AM

With a bit more reserch, I learned some interesting information. After reading this, you may reconsider how you go about fitting HID's to your Low-Pros. I may just invest $1000 for the lows, and leave the highs as halogen. READ THIS...http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3505

Greg G · 12-06-2006, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefasazn @ Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:38 am

Unless the cheap Filipino comes out in me and I end up going with one of those cheap kits....

HEY HEY we're not all cheap

redroadster27 · 12-06-2006, 05:46 AM

This thread is pretty old. Has anyone actually converted to HID yet?

12-06-2006, 11:00 PM

For clarification, what is the bulb sizing for the Moss Low-Pro lighting kit? I think someone said the size was H9. Is H9 for the lows and highs, or just the lows?

Agent935 · 12-06-2006, 11:15 PM

for both

27akademiks · 12-06-2006, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg G @ Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:55 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefasazn @ Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:38 am

Unless the cheap Filipino comes out in me and I end up going with one of those cheap kits....

HEY HEY we're not all cheap

Greg's right. Only sometimes. heheh. j/k

12-07-2006, 11:20 PM

After quite an extensive bit of research on HIDPlanet.com, I have learned that there is really only one way to properly add HID's to the Moss Headlamp Kit. While the Moss Kit comes standard with Halogen Projectors, they are insufficient to properly run HID's. The light, because the projector lens is different, will have hotspotting, the cutoff will not be allighed properly; ultimatly, one will have the HID look but the lighting quality will subpar. In fact, using an HID kit designed to replace the H9 Halogen bulb would probably produce results worse than just using a standard H9 bulb. H9's are really good halogen bulbs.

What needs to be done, though it will be expensive, is the Halogen Projector needs to be exchanged with a HID Projecter. I know, they run about $500 each. Well, that is what needs to be done. After exchanging the module, a HID kit needs to be purchased, though not the ones on eBay. The eBay kits are poorly made, don't last long, and are just direct replacements to halogen bulbs. On HIDPlanet.com, they sell kits designed for those that have an HID projector. Considering you have added the Hella HID Projector module, you can use a real HID bulb, a D2S. All the cutoffs will be alligned, there will be no hotspotting, and it wil shine nice and bright.

It all depends on what you are trying to do. If you are just going for the look of HID, get a cheap eBay kit with a H9 bulb. Otherwise, incour the expense and do it right. When done, you will have a beautiful setup that rivals the likes of a BMW or Audi HID setup.

mazspeed · 12-07-2006, 11:54 PM

I will probably try one of the cheap ebay kits on my hella h9 projectors. A few of my buddies got the $150 ebay kits, and they look great, the light output isn't bad either. For $150, i'll buy a set and see how it works with the hella h9 projectors. I will be going with the 6000k ones.

12-07-2006, 11:57 PM

If I were you, I would option for the 4300K ones. They will look cleaner/whiter as opposed to immitation blue. The 4300K is standard on a BMW or Audi, for example. I would suggest reading the report I linked to earlier, on HIDPlanet.com, about installing such kits in non-HID housings. I am going to spring for the Hella HID projectors and get the right setup, when I get that far in my Miata project.

FooSchnickens · 12-08-2006, 12:01 AM

You need a login for that site though, so it's kinda tough to read it...

12-08-2006, 12:17 AM

I have copied/pasted the info below...

I really hope this thread can help you guys. Ur making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a HID kit to your car. so please do HID the right way by doing a retrofit.

HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.

OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing?s without projectors. Others use HID projectors.

The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.

Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.

This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic

Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing

NOW THE GOOD poop..lol

This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi

Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup

another S2000 Retrofit? YUMMY

Article stating why the kits are illegal.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html

Comparison.. Pictured is a Acura TL-S with HID from the factory vs H4 6000K civic
See the difference?

To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales.

RM Racing
Astex USA
Kmax International
FET, Inc.
J. Liu LLC
Gourmet Garage
JC Whitney
Lighting Research
SPW Industries, Inc.
Pacific Micro-lite
McCulloch Motors, Inc.
Santeca Electronics
JF Manufacturing
Streetglow, Inc.
Outback Products, Inc.
Nu Performance
GR Motorsports, Inc.
Global Premier
New Clor
Importhookup.com
DG International
MTC Lighting
Umnitza
Liteglow
American Products Company

Fritch · 12-08-2006, 04:18 PM

so HID is sooooo bad in halogen? Not in my case...

12-08-2006, 09:27 PM

That is actually pretty clean. Is that out of a Miata? Moss Low-Pros?

mazspeed · 12-09-2006, 02:18 AM

I'll be receiving and installing the HID's in my hella h9 projectors. i'll take some pix. hopefully they look decent. Im sure it'll have some glare but nothing blinding. It can't be any worst than the 4x4 trucks with with 4 fog lights shining in your eyes.

siuson2 · 12-09-2006, 03:48 AM

I would like to see some pictures too.

I am actually going to head over to BSP (the new bsp) to see if they can hook me up with a set of projectors for the low beams so i can run some xenon's

Fritch · 12-10-2006, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mylesofsmyles @ Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:27 pm

That is actually pretty clean. Is that out of a Miata? Moss Low-Pros?

yeah its the projectors on the 01+ lights with 5300k HID in them

people rattle off that it doesn't work, looks bad and then you show them the pics and they shut up. Most people talk and don't actually know first hand, it can get annoying lol.

a13n0rma1 · 12-10-2006, 07:09 PM

IIRC the Hella projectors in the Moss lopro units are 90mm.

AKA, about $500 a piece at Rallylights. I'd add the extra $40 a unit for the bi-xenon (hi and lo beam), then use it as an add-on to the hi-beam already in the kit.

...Blind the crap out of someone if I flash them!

mazspeed · 12-10-2006, 11:41 PM

And this is the halogen Hella H9 $60 projectors.

H9/D2S marked on the lense

and the pit on the bottom for the electrode lead going to the front of the HID capsule

So it looks like the $135 H9 HID ebay kit I bought should work. So thats saves me about $1000 on the Hella HID conversion! I know I know, I get what I pay for. But as long as it looks decent, i'll be happy.

08-16-2006, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
onefasazn Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoSoCal Posts: 134	HIDs with Moss Low pro I saw that the Moss lowpros have a projector unit. Just wondering if anyone that has these is using HIDs. Id like to see what the output looks like, what kit is being used, etc

08-16-2006, 11:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
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08-16-2006, 08:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Agent935 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,687	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro There are two ways to do it actually. The first is buying a conversion kit. It's definaltely the cheaper option. The second is to buy actuall Hella 90mm hid units for both high and low beams and replace the halogen ones with them. They sell them at rally lights and it runs almost $500 per light. That'd be almost $2k for a full setup, which is spendy; but it would yeild a superior beam pattern.
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08-19-2006, 05:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Max_Power Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 3,822	No wait, to put HID in the low pros it should be very easy! You just have to buy the right kit for the H9 and it should be straight replacement! The HID kits for the H9 have the light in the same spot (not deeper) so as a result the beam is the same, just more bright!
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08-19-2006, 09:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
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08-17-2006, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
onefasazn Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoSoCal Posts: 134	I probably would only do it for the low beams, I think lo and hi would be a LOT of light. I was looking at Rally lights a while ago but I had lost the link, thanks for posting it. Does anyone have a pic of light patterns and output? Help is much appreciated. Thanks

08-19-2006, 12:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
mazspeed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 272	Im planning on putting hid's on my hella projectors also. Heres the best detailed how-to I found so far http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58041

08-19-2006, 04:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
onefasazn Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoSoCal Posts: 134	yeah ok I dont think it will be that involved putting HIDs in the Lowpros. Seems like you'll just have to change the projector out (to keep the beam pattern legal) Thats the main reason I would like to see pics. I dont want the light dispersal too wide or high.

08-19-2006, 03:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
onefasazn Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoSoCal Posts: 134	Im probably just going to save towards the Hella 90mm HID projectors to stick in there. Some may call me stupid for spending a bit more than I should, but I want OEM quality components. Unless the cheap Filipino comes out in me and I end up going with one of those cheap kits....

12-06-2006, 02:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro As was stated earlier in this thread, there are several ways to add Xenon/HID's. The first, cheapest would be to buy Cloated Halogen Bulbs like Sylvania's. They should improve lighting and give somewhat of a Xenon color. Now for the real options, the most cost effective would be to purchase an H9 conversion kit. This method would be pretty simple. Replacing each Ballast in the Moss kit would most probably produce some nice light, but how practical is it to spend so much money. Check out this site, it is really informative for lighting conversions of all types...http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/ As far as converting just the Low-Beams to Xenon/HID, that is realistically the best solution. Even on high-end vehicles equipped with Xenon/HID, the High-Beams are usually Halogen. Because the High-Beam is used to flash, it needs to be instant on and off. Xenon/HID bulbs take a few seconds to heat and fully light up, not practical. On BMW's, take a look at their Xenon/HID Angel Eye design. The outer ballasts are the HID low beams, the inner ballasts are halogen high beams. I would love to see a NA with a Moss Low kit and HID's
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12-06-2006, 03:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro With a bit more reserch, I learned some interesting information. After reading this, you may reconsider how you go about fitting HID's to your Low-Pros. I may just invest $1000 for the lows, and leave the highs as halogen. READ THIS...http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3505
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12-06-2006, 05:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
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12-06-2006, 11:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	For clarification, what is the bulb sizing for the Moss Low-Pro lighting kit? I think someone said the size was H9. Is H9 for the lows and highs, or just the lows?
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12-06-2006, 11:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
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12-07-2006, 11:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	After quite an extensive bit of research on HIDPlanet.com, I have learned that there is really only one way to properly add HID's to the Moss Headlamp Kit. While the Moss Kit comes standard with Halogen Projectors, they are insufficient to properly run HID's. The light, because the projector lens is different, will have hotspotting, the cutoff will not be allighed properly; ultimatly, one will have the HID look but the lighting quality will subpar. In fact, using an HID kit designed to replace the H9 Halogen bulb would probably produce results worse than just using a standard H9 bulb. H9's are really good halogen bulbs. What needs to be done, though it will be expensive, is the Halogen Projector needs to be exchanged with a HID Projecter. I know, they run about $500 each. Well, that is what needs to be done. After exchanging the module, a HID kit needs to be purchased, though not the ones on eBay. The eBay kits are poorly made, don't last long, and are just direct replacements to halogen bulbs. On HIDPlanet.com, they sell kits designed for those that have an HID projector. Considering you have added the Hella HID Projector module, you can use a real HID bulb, a D2S. All the cutoffs will be alligned, there will be no hotspotting, and it wil shine nice and bright. It all depends on what you are trying to do. If you are just going for the look of HID, get a cheap eBay kit with a H9 bulb. Otherwise, incour the expense and do it right. When done, you will have a beautiful setup that rivals the likes of a BMW or Audi HID setup.
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12-07-2006, 11:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
mazspeed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 272	I will probably try one of the cheap ebay kits on my hella h9 projectors. A few of my buddies got the $150 ebay kits, and they look great, the light output isn't bad either. For $150, i'll buy a set and see how it works with the hella h9 projectors. I will be going with the 6000k ones.

12-07-2006, 11:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro If I were you, I would option for the 4300K ones. They will look cleaner/whiter as opposed to immitation blue. The 4300K is standard on a BMW or Audi, for example. I would suggest reading the report I linked to earlier, on HIDPlanet.com, about installing such kits in non-HID housings. I am going to spring for the Hella HID projectors and get the right setup, when I get that far in my Miata project.
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12-08-2006, 12:01 AM	#22 (permalink)
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12-08-2006, 12:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro I have copied/pasted the info below... I really hope this thread can help you guys. Ur making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a HID kit to your car. so please do HID the right way by doing a retrofit. HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit. OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing?s without projectors. Others use HID projectors. The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted. Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff. This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing NOW THE GOOD poop..lol This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup another S2000 Retrofit? YUMMY Article stating why the kits are illegal. http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html Comparison.. Pictured is a Acura TL-S with HID from the factory vs H4 6000K civic See the difference? To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales. RM Racing Astex USA Kmax International FET, Inc. J. Liu LLC Gourmet Garage JC Whitney Lighting Research SPW Industries, Inc. Pacific Micro-lite McCulloch Motors, Inc. Santeca Electronics JF Manufacturing Streetglow, Inc. Outback Products, Inc. Nu Performance GR Motorsports, Inc. Global Premier New Clor Importhookup.com DG International MTC Lighting Umnitza Liteglow American Products Company
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12-08-2006, 04:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
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12-08-2006, 09:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
Mylesofsmyles Guest Posts: n/a	Re: HIDs with Moss Low pro That is actually pretty clean. Is that out of a Miata? Moss Low-Pros?
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12-09-2006, 02:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
mazspeed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 272	I'll be receiving and installing the HID's in my hella h9 projectors. i'll take some pix. hopefully they look decent. Im sure it'll have some glare but nothing blinding. It can't be any worst than the 4x4 trucks with with 4 fog lights shining in your eyes.

12-09-2006, 03:48 AM	#27 (permalink)
siuson2 Jr. Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - O.C. San Gabriel Posts: 54	I would like to see some pictures too. I am actually going to head over to BSP (the new bsp) to see if they can hook me up with a set of projectors for the low beams so i can run some xenon's
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12-10-2006, 07:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
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12-10-2006, 11:41 PM	#30 (permalink)
mazspeed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lebanon, Pa Posts: 272	And this is the halogen Hella H9 $60 projectors. H9/D2S marked on the lense and the pit on the bottom for the electrode lead going to the front of the HID capsule So it looks like the $135 H9 HID ebay kit I bought should work. So thats saves me about $1000 on the Hella HID conversion! I know I know, I get what I pay for. But as long as it looks decent, i'll be happy.

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