Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster

freedomgli · 09-02-2006, 01:40 AM

Caldera · 09-02-2006, 01:41 AM

Like the mounting...

... i'll keep my trap shut on the rest.

fwdtamiya · 09-02-2006, 02:49 AM

I can't imagine that being very stable

dude · 09-02-2006, 03:40 AM

i feel dirty for liking that.. i really want a NB nopro widebody with big spoiler

Greg G · 09-02-2006, 04:35 AM

Guys, try to distinguish parts made for FUNCTION over form... I don't think they gave a rat's ass whether or not it looked good...

NB owners, is there a lot of meat where it mounts?

ultimateforce · 09-02-2006, 11:52 AM

I am so torn...

Caldera · 09-02-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg G @ Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:35 am

Guys, try to distinguish parts made for FUNCTION over form... I don't think they gave a rat's ass whether or not it looked good...

NB owners, is there a lot of meat where it mounts?

You might have a point.

retrorocket · 09-02-2006, 12:56 PM

if I had an NB , I'd have one of those ... 8)

Matt [exz3owner] · 09-02-2006, 05:47 PM

thats pretty sick.

function > form

racecarshots · 09-02-2006, 05:59 PM

i love it. haha.

cheesefries · 09-02-2006, 06:14 PM

ide hit it

vicious-s · 09-03-2006, 05:23 PM

thats fucking wicked.

i still don't get how some people don't think funcional parts look good. personally, i think lip spoilers look pretty bad, mostly because the aerodynamic effects (especially w/ the top down) are minimal.

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Matt [exz3owner] · 09-03-2006, 08:11 PM

/\/\/\

So why do you this a front lip / airdamn does less with the top down?

The only functional issue that wing has is that it is too far back. When it adds downforce to the rear wheels, it works as a fulcrum actually removing wieght on the front tires...

vicious-s · 09-04-2006, 02:36 PM

i didn't mean front lip spoilers. i meant trunk lid lip spoilers. i know that balance is key, because of the fulcrum effect you described.

i just said "with the top down" because that will create a lot of turbulant air for a wing to cut through, which isn't as effective as clean air.

y8s · 09-05-2006, 01:07 PM

speaking of function... you'd have to cut everything you put into your trunk into thirds. like.. the spare.

Bryan · 09-05-2006, 08:15 PM

Fun

Matt [exz3owner] · 09-05-2006, 08:42 PM

don't think you'd be running a spare with that wing...

But that's besides the point. Why do you think your trunk would be divided into 3rds? that wing mounts outside the body...

y8s · 09-06-2006, 01:23 PM

wing mounts outside the body... right behind the trunk access...

i could imagine taking a spare to a track day "just in case"

M

vicious-s · 09-06-2006, 02:54 PM

i could imagine if you had a wing like that, you'd either bolt it on at the track, or your miata would be on a trailer with your racing wheels/tires/spare parts.

druz · 09-06-2006, 04:51 PM

I'm not fan of Big Ass Ugly Wings, but if they work, they work. A secondardy benefit of this design is that it looks to be totally removable when you're off the track. To me the primary benefit of this design is not potentially crushing your trunklid or having to worry about reinforcing it.

The only drawback I see in the mounting location is what Greg asked if it is sturdy enough to not get ripped out with 100lbs+ of downforce. I've never looked too closely in that area.

vicious-s · 09-06-2006, 07:48 PM

if you look at the mounts, you'll see that they're a good half inch thick piece of metal. that should be more than enough to support that wing's downforce.

i just don't think nopro would put a product like this on the market without testing it.

druz · 09-06-2006, 08:00 PM

I'm not talking about the supports, which are the larger metal part, but the black part that the support bolts to. That black piece bolts in somehow to the license plate area and I'm wondering if what that bolts into is sturdy enough to withstand the forces which are pushing in a different plane.

canyonfive · 02-05-2007, 03:33 PM

So where can you buy this? and how much does it cost?

Skinnyroadster · 02-05-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude @ Sat Sep 02, 2006 03:40

i feel dirty for liking that.. i really want a NB nopro widebody with big spoiler

The key word there is "with" not just a big a$$ wing and a stock slender waist line.

freedomgli · 02-05-2007, 03:45 PM

When in doubt, check the JDM Tuner Shops section of the forum. There you will find Nopro. That spoiler was for sale about 6 months ago. It is not a regular production item but is instead a "one off" made for one of their shop cars (not their GT300 racer but a regular time attack car). It sold used for about $900 USD. If you ask really nice you might be able to convince them to make you another but it won't be cheap.

linuxbox · 02-05-2007, 05:32 PM

sweet jesus

I'm just not sure, at first I puked in my mouth a little bit.

Now I'm finding myself feeling guilty for liking that big ass thing.

slydin miata 619 · 02-05-2007, 06:59 PM

looks like it would be a a pita to put things in the trunk .i'm pretty sure that when you go through corners you feel that it's kinda hard to oversteer now huh? ... best of luck...

my 2 cents..it'll look better with rims and flares

LUV2TURN · 02-05-2007, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt [exz3owner

@ Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:11 pm]
The only functional issue that wing has is that it is too far back. When it adds downforce to the rear wheels, it works as a fulcrum actually removing wieght on the front tires...

Oh crap, you better tell that to this idiot then!

I'm just kidding, of course you're right. You can't just slap a huge wing on the back of a car and expect good downforce. Aero work on a car must be a balanced package in order to work correctly.

freedomgli · 02-05-2007, 07:30 PM

Exactly. It's got to be balanced. And the setup likely varies depending on track.

slutz4 · 02-05-2007, 07:48 PM

^^^ im not sure if I could fit a piece of paper under that audi :shock:

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09-02-2006, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
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vicious-s Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR, USA Posts: 239	thats fucking wicked. i still don't get how some people don't think funcional parts look good. personally, i think lip spoilers look pretty bad, mostly because the aerodynamic effects (especially w/ the top down) are minimal. big wing crew sign in!
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Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	/\/\/\ So why do you this a front lip / airdamn does less with the top down? The only functional issue that wing has is that it is too far back. When it adds downforce to the rear wheels, it works as a fulcrum actually removing wieght on the front tires...
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vicious-s Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR, USA Posts: 239	i didn't mean front lip spoilers. i meant trunk lid lip spoilers. i know that balance is key, because of the fulcrum effect you described. i just said "with the top down" because that will create a lot of turbulant air for a wing to cut through, which isn't as effective as clean air.
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Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	don't think you'd be running a spare with that wing... But that's besides the point. Why do you think your trunk would be divided into 3rds? that wing mounts outside the body...
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y8s Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: northern VA/DC Posts: 211	wing mounts outside the body... right behind the trunk access... i could imagine taking a spare to a track day "just in case" M
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09-06-2006, 02:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
vicious-s Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR, USA Posts: 239	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster i could imagine if you had a wing like that, you'd either bolt it on at the track, or your miata would be on a trailer with your racing wheels/tires/spare parts.
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druz Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SJ, CA Posts: 443	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster I'm not fan of Big Ass Ugly Wings, but if they work, they work. A secondardy benefit of this design is that it looks to be totally removable when you're off the track. To me the primary benefit of this design is not potentially crushing your trunklid or having to worry about reinforcing it. The only drawback I see in the mounting location is what Greg asked if it is sturdy enough to not get ripped out with 100lbs+ of downforce. I've never looked too closely in that area.

09-06-2006, 07:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
vicious-s Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR, USA Posts: 239	if you look at the mounts, you'll see that they're a good half inch thick piece of metal. that should be more than enough to support that wing's downforce. i just don't think nopro would put a product like this on the market without testing it.
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09-06-2006, 08:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
druz Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SJ, CA Posts: 443	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster I'm not talking about the supports, which are the larger metal part, but the black part that the support bolts to. That black piece bolts in somehow to the license plate area and I'm wondering if what that bolts into is sturdy enough to withstand the forces which are pushing in a different plane.

02-05-2007, 03:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
canyonfive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orange County,CA Posts: 167	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster So where can you buy this? and how much does it cost?

02-05-2007, 03:45 PM	#25 (permalink)
freedomgli Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,192	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster When in doubt, check the JDM Tuner Shops section of the forum. There you will find Nopro. That spoiler was for sale about 6 months ago. It is not a regular production item but is instead a "one off" made for one of their shop cars (not their GT300 racer but a regular time attack car). It sold used for about $900 USD. If you ask really nice you might be able to convince them to make you another but it won't be cheap.
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02-05-2007, 05:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
linuxbox Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 321	Re: Nopro GT wing for NB Roadster sweet jesus I'm just not sure, at first I puked in my mouth a little bit. Now I'm finding myself feeling guilty for liking that big ass thing.

02-05-2007, 06:59 PM	#27 (permalink)
slydin miata 619 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 327	looks like it would be a a pita to put things in the trunk .i'm pretty sure that when you go through corners you feel that it's kinda hard to oversteer now huh? ... best of luck... my 2 cents..it'll look better with rims and flares
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02-05-2007, 07:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
freedomgli Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,192	Exactly. It's got to be balanced. And the setup likely varies depending on track.
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