Anyone got info on this piece?

CE28N · 10-14-2006, 07:50 PM

It's probably Cusco. I could be wrong. But which one is this? Anyone got info?

amievil · 10-14-2006, 08:14 PM

i dont know but i want one!

turbored · 10-14-2006, 08:45 PM

where did you find the pic? The cusco site doesn't seem to have anything like that.

ExHondaMan · 10-16-2006, 04:36 PM

Sweet. I bet it costs a brazillion dollars.

Seriously, how hard would it be for somebody to make? I should start learning how to weld.......hmm.....

sonique128 · 10-16-2006, 04:55 PM

Other than stiffening the middle like a 1.8 has stock, what else does the car benefit from?

amievil · 10-16-2006, 05:02 PM

it looks purty

tnkw · 10-16-2006, 07:21 PM

wonder if it would work inconjunction with roll bars...

Mr.Woolery · 10-16-2006, 07:54 PM

That is an example of how NOT to build a stiffening member. Ugh. #-o

Sorry, but from what I know about engineering it looks like a POS to me.

Flyineunos · 10-16-2006, 08:37 PM

I'm sure its an over engineered harness bar. Not for stiffening.

jesseclee · 10-16-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Woolery @ Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:54 pm

That is an example of how NOT to build a stiffening member. Ugh. #-o

Sorry, but from what I know about engineering it looks like a POS to me.

Why? Looks like a pretty good triangulation to me. I doubt anyone can do any better for a bolt-on brace in that location.

Bryan · 10-16-2006, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyineunos @ Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:37 pm

I'm sure its an over engineered harness bar. Not for stiffening.

Wouldn't even recommend it for that. Without a rollbar, harnesses are just a bad idea, IMHO (not to mention illegal in SCCA Solo unless your car has a real framed roof). At least for the Hard Dog rollbars, this thing comes down right where the front uprights for the main hoop would go (and wouldn't really even stiffen the car as much as the rollbar).

ExHondaMan · 10-16-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Woolery @ Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:54 pm

That is an example of how NOT to build a stiffening member. Ugh. #-o

Sorry, but from what I know about engineering it looks like a POS to me.

He said "stiffening member" *Beavis chuckle*

Seriously though, I'm willing to bet my "stiffening member" that if you do the "lift test" (jacking one corner of the car up and see how aligned or misaligned the car door is) you will see less deflection. In other words, over rail-roads tracks where the chassis is flexing in every direction, I think this bar will do It something. It does triangulate the vertical and horizontal planes, so I'm thiking it will do more then a strut tower bar.

I could be wrong though.

acejoker · 10-18-2006, 04:42 AM

(Don't mean to threadjack)

But what's with all the bolt-in braces and rollbars i've been seeing? Isn't it significantly weaker than welds? I could see it as sufficient for strut pieces but not rollbars.

My buddy has a cusco rollbar in his S2000 and it looks like it'll fall apart if he flips his car. Won't the strength of the bolts play a big factor?

Sacrafice on labor for lower production cost and convenience ?

I'm not an expert.. someone fill me in.

ExHondaMan · 10-18-2006, 05:29 AM

^^Have you seen a bolted roll bar in action? I've seen a few 'verts at the tracks with the shiny side down. It works. It's not like when you roll over you are putting a tremendous force on the bars. The weight is distributed through four, sometimes 6 points throught the chassis. The bolts would be the lesser concern if you're talking about a really high-speed, multiple rollover situation, it's what the bolts are connected to (sheet-metal) Which is why some sanctioning bodies requires the mounting points to be welded AND boxed for all-out race cars. But for everyday driving and track-day driving, bolted bars are fine.

acejoker · 10-18-2006, 06:03 AM

Interesting.

I was concerned about the bolts on top that connects the bars together. I guess they are strong enough to withstand the impact from a rollover.

Sorry for the threadjack, continue on with the mysterious piece.

Bryan · 10-18-2006, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExHondaMan @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:29 am

^^Have you seen a bolted roll bar in action? I've seen a few 'verts at the tracks with the shiny side down. It works. It's not like when you roll over you are putting a tremendous force on the bars. The weight is distributed through four, sometimes 6 points throught the chassis. The bolts would be the lesser concern if you're talking about a really high-speed, multiple rollover situation, it's what the bolts are connected to (sheet-metal) Which is why some sanctioning bodies requires the mounting points to be welded AND boxed for all-out race cars. But for everyday driving and track-day driving, bolted bars are fine.

I think he means bars where the hoop is bolted to the supports (not welded, like Hard Dog, Autopower, etc. bars are). In that case, the hoop and support are only joined by one bolt.

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acejoker Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Temple City, CA Posts: 519	Re: Anyone got info on this piece? (Don't mean to threadjack) But what's with all the bolt-in braces and rollbars i've been seeing? Isn't it significantly weaker than welds? I could see it as sufficient for strut pieces but not rollbars. My buddy has a cusco rollbar in his S2000 and it looks like it'll fall apart if he flips his car. Won't the strength of the bolts play a big factor? Sacrafice on labor for lower production cost and convenience ? I'm not an expert.. someone fill me in.
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acejoker Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Temple City, CA Posts: 519	Re: Anyone got info on this piece? Interesting. I was concerned about the bolts on top that connects the bars together. I guess they are strong enough to withstand the impact from a rollover. Sorry for the threadjack, continue on with the mysterious piece.
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