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Old 12-21-2012, 02:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm trying to install my new isc top hats on my tein basics and there is a little over an inch of play between the lower top hat stop on the shock shaft and the retaining nut. What the heck? Please refer to the picture.



The guys at isc were no help as they very hastily told me to look on the website. Which says drop the top hat on the shock then install the rubber bushing washer and retaining nut. I would think in this condition they would move up and down on the shaft with all that play. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also how much should I trim the bump stops?
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Your missing a spacer that goes on there
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They said nothing about a spacer and it was not included in the box. That is very odd...
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call them again?
I personally didn't install these on my car, but I've seen other sets forsale used. And they all had those spacers included with the actual tophat
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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According to this: http://www.iscracing.net/tophatinst.html

There should be no spacer, I'm wondering if this is something folks have done to install these on other things...
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they're not made to fit the Teins specifically. On Konis, you have to drill out the hole to fit the larger shaft. For Teins, you need a spacer.
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I don't think there should be a spacer, the further that shaft is pulled up, the less stroke you are allowing yourself.

I have these hats on the rear of my car on basics, and they look nothing like that picture with the spacer. Me thinks that guy was slightly retarded. That car probably had zero suspension droop. Mine is pretty shit even without the spacer.
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Hmmmm, I might have to look into this more then.
I swear I've seen a few sets with the spacers, mine are tien super streets.

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Only thing I could think is the rear is way different than the front. But the NB tophats I have upfront don't pull the shaft that high either.

The spacer + the extended tophat that coilovers shaft is being pulled up like 4". That is insane.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well since I need a spacer what should I be using for a spacer and should it go before or after the poly bushing and washer?
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Weird, I didn't install my top hats, bought the coils used. Mine look nothing like those pictures lol. All I know is the amount my suspension will droop is very limited, even without the shaft being pulled up so high and my car is too low for my tastes. Maybe the PO of my coils did something dumb, who knows.
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Well fuck, I bought my basics used and they didn't come with those collar spacers, I'll have to figure something out. Anybody got any ideas what I could use?
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Maybe take a trip to the hardware store, I'll go measure mine in a little while and let you know how tall of a spacer to get.
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you can grab a metal sleeve like that at Lowes, I don't know if they will have the right size but you could look. Also mcmaster car will have it
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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OK cool, what are you guys doing for bump stops? The tein bumps seem to be a bit short and look like the upper control arms will smack the frame before the bump stop makes contact. I don't have a lot of options at this point as the car is in the air with no suspension under it and with it being xmas alternatives are going to be difficult to find.
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FCM bumpstops
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FCM bumpstops
I don't have time to wait for them to come in the mail...
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OK cool, what are you guys doing for bump stops? The tein bumps seem to be a bit short and look like the upper control arms will smack the frame before the bump stop makes contact. I don't have a lot of options at this point as the car is in the air with no suspension under it and with it being xmas alternatives are going to be difficult to find.

Use the Tein supplied ones, they work fine. FWIW: you'll have more travel without the spacer.
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LOLFWD Whats your location?
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I don't have time to wait for them to come in the mail...
Then put the stock stuff back in until you figure it out.
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Then put the stock stuff back in until you figure it out.
I don't have the stockers, someone said the tein bumpstops will be fine so I'll rock them.
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Your missing a spacer that goes on there

rofl. you people...
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Yea thankfully in not that dumb...
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^^^you sure?

You bought ISC top hats. They are made for NA Bilsteins. You're putting them on Teins and wonder why they don't fit right. And you're confused there are no instructions for the wrong application.

Get creative.
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^^^you sure?


Get creative.
Seriously. They didn't fit on the BCs out of the box, took longer for the gold paint to dry then figuring out to mount them and then install.
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^^^you sure?

You bought ISC top hats. They are made for NA Bilsteins. You're putting them on Teins and wonder why they don't fit right. And you're confused there are no instructions for the wrong application.

Get creative.



Oh they are already in the car, I was referring to the laughs on the picture. I used a spacer which worked great, however I didn't put it in the order the other guy had it...
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