Ok so I bought this clutch back at the swap meet and had it installed along with a 6 speed trans and ES diff mounts.
first a few basic points:
-this is just a review I am not telling you to go get it, make your own decision and deal with the consequenses and benefits yourself (posting that because some clown ruined their headlights after trying to follow my "how to HID retrofit" thread and pretty much blamed me and even had the audacity to ask if I could help them in buying a new pair of headlights LOL)
-this is just a review I am not telling you to go get it, make your own decision and deal with the consequenses and benefits yourself (posting that because some clown ruined their headlights after trying to follow my "how to HID retrofit" thread and pretty much blamed me and even had the audacity to ask if I could help them in buying a new pair of headlights LOL)
-this thing is SUPER lightweight and emilio isn't BSing when he claims "the car will free rev like a bike" it truely does.
-the pedal is STIFF as can be expected in almost any higher end race oriented clutch.
-Due to those 2 factors and the fact it needs to be slipped from a dead stop, I WOULD NOT RECCOMEND THIS TO ANYONE WHO FREQUENTS HEAVY TRAFFIC, the reasoning for that should be quite obvious :domo:
-I went from a 5speed and stock clutch through the 3.9 torsen to the twindisc and 6speed so my results may be a little more aggressive than if you were to stay with the transmission you're used to
-my review is from the perspective of a daily driver first and occasional track time second unlike most others who have bought this clutch setup being the reverse. My review is also pertaining only to the organic twin, the organic single or metallic single/twin may be signifigantly different.
DAILY use:
Combined with the 6 speed, 1st gear is almost useless. I can barely make it across an intersection before I need to shift into second if I'm wanting to go fast and don't go easy on the accelerator pedal preassure. this does make for some pretty fun canyon and freeway on-ramp entrances :mrgreen:
Combined with the 6 speed, 1st gear is almost useless. I can barely make it across an intersection before I need to shift into second if I'm wanting to go fast and don't go easy on the accelerator pedal preassure. this does make for some pretty fun canyon and freeway on-ramp entrances :mrgreen:
The disc must be slipped from dead stops in order to prevent attention getting stalls or tire spins. It really isn't all that hard to do but did take me some practice. by the end of the second night I had it pretty much mastered.
With the 6 speed it seems as though mileage has gone done quite a bit but I'll accept that for the added acceleration and the car being in higher RPMs at the same speed compared to the 5 speed.
The car does make signifigantly more noise and some vibration @ idle(seems to go away when the car is moving) but I'm not sure how much of that can be attributed to the clutch as I also added ES polyurethane differential bushings.
TRACK use:
For a track only or predominantly track car this is one of the best setups I've ever encountered in any car. It's got a quick precise action to the shifting that was lacking from the stock clutch and 5 speed setup. I was able to keep pretty close with a JRSCd NB in several sections(had tein flex suspension and was running RS2...the motor was stock except for SC) and absolutely blew the doors off of a near stock 1.8L NA with a torsen on the same tires as me(falken ziex 912) at Buttonwillow's Westloop #27
For a track only or predominantly track car this is one of the best setups I've ever encountered in any car. It's got a quick precise action to the shifting that was lacking from the stock clutch and 5 speed setup. I was able to keep pretty close with a JRSCd NB in several sections(had tein flex suspension and was running RS2...the motor was stock except for SC) and absolutely blew the doors off of a near stock 1.8L NA with a torsen on the same tires as me(falken ziex 912) at Buttonwillow's Westloop #27
the car is very easy to revmatch & heel/toe
I'm still learning how to drive a RWD car for track/canyon use so that's really about all I can say.
I usually due a traditional 1-10 scale on various categories so here's that portion:
Weight savings & inertial gains over stock : 10 (was probably around 20lbs over stock and has a tighter moment of inertia....this is one of the few 10's I've given on ANY review I've ever done)
Ease of installation(compared to a normal clutch): 8 (not too much different but adjusting the pedal to find the new sweet spot without too much action(which would damage the clutch) was pretty tedious work
streetability: with light->moderate traffic: 7 (can easily be done once you're used to it, but it's a bit more of a chore than with a normal sized single disc setup weighing several pounds more.......in moderate->heavy traffic I'd say the 7 goesdown to a 3....can be done but your leg will be sore after less than an hour and it puts a signifigant amount of additional wear on things
ease of revmatching & heel toe: 8 (it's easy again once you really get the hang of it but the car likes to rev so much I found that I was often over shooting the target RPM range)
Customer service/support: 10 (not only did emilio print up several sets of directions before I left he also emailed them to me and he shipped me the clutch discs for free since they weren't in stock when I was there at the swapmeet)
anything more feel free to ask or add