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Blackbird Fabworx Custom 6-Point Rollbar (AMAZING!)

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#1 ·
"Hey nice miata! Are you on m.net?"... :fp:


The style bar had to go.

I couldn't take it anymore. Not only did I look like I was borrowing my 65-year old grandpa's car, but that ish was just downright unsafe on the track and in the canyons without a rollbar. I'd been looking over the usual Hard Dogs and Boss Frogs since I got my car in January. It wasn't that they weren't good bars, it was just that. They were just, well, bars, to me.

I needed something different. Something better. Lo and behold, I found rdrcr's thread detailing his new 6-point fabbed and installed by SoCal native Blackbird Fabworx. I always thought a 6-point would be nice. Heck, who wouldn't want door bars solidifying the chassis? But I sure as hell wasn't going to pay $275+$50 shipping for some bolt in tubes of metal.

Now what Moti fabbed up for rdrcr- that's what I wanted. The way it flowed evenly with the four point with precise welds just made those door bars belong. Looking at 4-points, they just seemed incomplete now.

I exchanged a few (heh, maybe a bit more than that. I'm sure my daily PM's started to rack up) messages with Moti and together we hashed out exactly what I wanted. Eventually we came to the decision to use 1.75"x0.095" DOM tubing with 1/8" mounting and backing plates.

It was finally time to take my car to the next level. I made the trek to Northridge with my mom caravaning behind me (have to get back home some how) and along the way thought to myself how that would be the last time I would experience body flex. When I dropped the car off at Moti's, he came up with a few more suggestions to make the bar even better. Instead of black paint, he recommended antique bronze to flow with my black and tan and 3M tape to protect my door bars. I completely agreed and bid goodbye to my tiny go kart.

Not only were the choices perfect, but after Moti detoxed my interior and removed the monstrosity called the 'style bar', he called to let me know that my plates were in fact being laser cut to look ever sharper. This is just one of the examples of Blackbird Fabworx going above and beyond what is deemed necessary to make a bar that is truly a work of art.

Unfortunately, Moti called me the next day to inform me that my glass window was infact 36" instead of the standard 32-34" on the OEM tops. Not to be dismayed, Moti tried over four different designs with the rear legs to make sure they fit perfectly with the glass window.

After a few days of building the bar and keeping me constantly updated with pictures, the car was ready. I was as giddy as a schoolgirl as I again made the trek up to Northridge. Everything I had hoped the bar to be had turned out better. Moti made sure that every single little detail was perfect and up to his standards. I still can't believe how solid the car feels now as I tear through Angeles Crest Highway. Unbelievably, this rigidity only weighed 46 lbs with the door bars!

This isn't just a bar. It is an extension of the car, taking it to new horizons.





 
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#10 ·
Looks awesome to the point that I might do it in the near future... especially if the penalty is only 46lbs.

Moti do you think it's possible to have a greater angle in the side bar so that it disappears in the door cavity (when you look at it from the top w/o armrests)?
 
#11 ·
Looks awesome to the point that I might do it in the near future... especially if the penalty is only 46lbs.

Moti do you think it's possible to have a greater angle in the side bar so that it disappears in the door cavity (when you look at it from the top w/o armrests)?
Hey Chris,

Not sure what the question is.
You want the door bar to go further out?
As you see it in Sean's car, the door bars are barely 1/8" away from the door cards.
When you remove the door card you see that the door panel itself (the sheet metal) is pretty much right behind it.

I can surely notch a bit into the sheet metal and the door cards to get it a bit deeper into the door, but I think that if you sat in Sean's car you'll see that the bars are out of the way.
Try it in the 5 yr. Kinod!

Moti
 
#14 ·
Gotcha, yeah that's pretty much what I figured.
The pic you attached is definitely a car with a full cage and most likely no windows, but if you're inclined to cut through the sheet metal and door cards than the door bar can probably move a bit further out.

I'll be happy to work out a custom door bar set up for you.
Let's try and catch up at Kinod or something.

Moti
 
#22 ·
Gonna save my pennies.

Moti, would it be rude to ask what range we should be shooting for in the piggy bank?


I mean I know it's all custom work but a ball park would be cool.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I met with Moti during the last KINOD meeting. I was really impressed with how knowledgeable he is and his attention to detail. Lucky enough everyone was there so I could see three of the local miatas he worked on during the last couple of months.
Top notch stuff not comparable with most off the shelve solutions.
He also had his laptop and I could see some really amazing projects he worked on in the past.
We talked about the bar that I envisioned and I think sometime after summer I might drop my car there for my dream bar (something very light which will be as tall as possible following the HT height - don't care about soft top- with sidebars and a Woolery bar in the middle header).
 
#23 ·
Hey Mike,

The 6 point rollbar includes the installation in the price and runs for most customers between $1100-$1500.
Normally NA's will be a on the lower side of the range.

When you do the math of a normal 4 point bar from a known brand, which will be close to $600 shipped, add door bars for roughly $300 more and about $300-400 for installation and you're right there at the same price range, only with an inferior product ;).

My rollbars (6 or 4 point) are allowing the customer to choose options that don't even exist from any other vendors and truly customized it to their needs.
If you need an example just have a look at what Max power posted, he's looking into a lightweight 7 point rollbar, good luck getting that from other miata vendors :lol:

Moti
 
#24 ·
Moti is an awesome guys and very knowledgeable when it comes down to roll bars. Trust me. Youll be very satisfied with the outcome and overall quality of the materials he uses. Just gotta talk to him and go into deatails with what you really want.

-Roy
 
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