Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ?

Mx-5 dude · 08-03-2006, 11:52 AM

Im not to savy in terms of what works and will not work for the NB.

So as the topic says im wondering if the sportmaxs, 15x8 or 15x7 will fit on my miata. They have a 0 offset and my NB is lowered and because of the icehawk alignment it has a lot of negative camber.

thoughts ?

boostmx5 · 08-03-2006, 12:16 PM

If you look at my thread u can see them on a Na
They will work on a NB

A couple things you need neg camber to help with fitment and rubbing, you need to atleast roll your fenders and preferablly pull them, you need to get rid of your fender liners and you need to be low...but it can be done

Mx-5 dude · 08-03-2006, 02:58 PM

Ok thanks for the info, I read the thread about your car and It inspired me to look at some black ones for my NB.

Im assuming fender rolling wont be to hard.

However im just wondering if this would be a smart choice for a daily driver

Dicker · 08-03-2006, 04:34 PM

yes, alot of guys drive them

however i have my car so low right now my 15x7s are rubbing the insides of my fenders, woo me!

sonique128 · 08-03-2006, 04:42 PM

my only complaint with sportmaxes is this:

Dicker · 08-03-2006, 05:45 PM

any wheel with a big lip that isnt forged is gonna break like that.

now a work or SSR wheel might fair better, but thats what you get when you pay over 3x the price.

Max_Power · 08-03-2006, 07:01 PM

The sportmax are very lightweight (14lbs only for a 15x8 wheel is really good) and if they are acombined with a 195-50 tire the combo is light with enough sidewall for everyday driving...

Furthermore are cheap and easy to replace in case you break them

BTW Many people had problems (with bend/broken rims) with the SSR (there was even a webpage dedicated to these problems!!!) and of course they cost 3x of the sportmax

RusMan · 08-03-2006, 08:14 PM

The fit very good, you have to roll the fenders

Max_Power · 08-03-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RusMan @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:14 pm

The fit very good, you have to roll the fenders

RusMan you miata is the most beautiful NB I've ever seen =D>
You are making me thing again if I doing right by selling my Sportmax for the Rota PDC #-o

PS The picture became right away my wallpaper for the month

Mx-5 dude · 08-04-2006, 02:19 AM

Thanks for the pics and Info everyone.

Im really going to look into getting a set of sportmaxes.

RusMan · 08-04-2006, 01:30 PM

That broken wheel is also mine

Yes it fell apart but I'm still saying that they're great rims, how hard I hit that curb no rim would've survived, yes the more expensive mabye wouldn't split like that but it will rip out your suspension, and I'd rather replace a wheel, which is very cheap, than order a new expensive wheel and a whole new suspension. I very highly recommend this wheel to anyone.

RusMan · 08-04-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicker @ Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:34 pm

yes, alot of guys drive them

however i have my car so low right now my 15x7s are rubbing the insides of my fenders, woo me!

I am also very low right now, 11" from center of the wheel to the top of the fender. My tires tuck about 1/2inch under the fender, I rub but not very much, only when cornering hard and running over a bump in the road or something.

Ohh and mx5 dude, make sure you buy 15x8 and not 15x7 because 15x7rims have +38offset which is really high and looks horrible :!:

Dicker · 08-04-2006, 02:28 PM

yeah, im at 11.5 F and 12 rear with a 207 on 15x7+38

my fender liners like to scrape.

Mx-5 dude · 08-05-2006, 02:31 AM

Once again thanks for the info guys !

I cant tell you how much this is helping me right now.

So looks like I might be placing an order for a set of 15x8

what is the width of the tire ? 205 ?

RusMan · 08-05-2006, 03:06 AM

I'm running 195/50/15 tire right now, I haven't tried but I think 205 is possible if you pull the fender enough and have more negative camber.

boostmx5 · 08-05-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mx-5 dude @ Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:31 am

Once again thanks for the info guys !

I cant tell you how much this is helping me right now.

So looks like I might be placing an order for a set of 15x8

what is the width of the tire ? 205 ?

def go with a 195 man, you wont loose any contact patch from a 195 vs 205 on 8 inch wide wheel. Since thats a very mild stretch and it will just pull the sidewalls down a bit. Before this I was running 205's on a 7 inch wide and had way less traction.

I am 10.5 inches....very low
Yes I dont have a MB but I am also running pulled fenders
You will not regret believe me. Yes it will take more work but you wont be sacrificing for some wimpy offset and sizes and in the end you will be satisfied and have no regrets =D>

Dicker · 08-05-2006, 01:45 PM

youyr 195/50 on an 8 is gripping more than a 205/50 on a 7? same tire?

because i run 205s on a 7 and am afraid of losing grip going to a 195.

boostmx5 · 08-05-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicker @ Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:45 pm

youyr 195/50 on an 8 is gripping more than a 205/50 on a 7? same tire?

because i run 205s on a 7 and am afraid of losing grip going to a 195.

Yep it is,
You will loose grip going to a 195 from a 205 on a 7
But I gained grip from a 205 on a 7inch to 195 on a 8 inch. Im stretching the rubber over a wider surface area thus more contact patch

Mx-5 dude · 08-06-2006, 02:43 AM

Well damnit !!!

I just bought a set of new Azenis two weeks ago. 205/50/15.

theres no way im going to get these sport maxs now because I wont have the damn $$$ to buy new tires !!!

danscreations · 08-06-2006, 07:13 PM

I bought a set of these wheels about 2 months ago and was very impressed by the look and weight of them. I rolled (not sure if thats what your refering too by pulling them) and couldn't get them to fit with maxing out the camber. Now.. I did have 205/50/15 (i belive 205's for sure) Nitto Neogens which could have been the problem. I was going to order some 195 Toyo's but didn't see how it was going to make that MUCH of a differance. I'm running Tokico Illuminia's with H&R springs. What type of suspension are you all running. Thats the only thing i can figure is smaller tires and and very stiff suspension to make em' work.

I sold the wheels and tires and bought some huge ass wheels that look cool and are differant but I want these back and to work as I like the look and diffantly like the weight savings.

What I have now:
Sportmax 006's
17x8 et+35 Front
17x9 et+35 Rear

RusMan · 08-06-2006, 11:40 PM

I'm running Stance coilovers 9k/7k springs, no rubbing. I used to run d2 with 7k/6k springs and I was rubbing a bit on the corners.

Dicker · 08-07-2006, 12:50 AM

howd you get 9/7?

mine are 8/6 or so i think

Phantom · 08-07-2006, 02:29 AM

Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?

Mx-5 dude · 08-07-2006, 10:28 AM

Im running Eibach pro kit springs and KYB AGX for dampers.

asianrice02 · 08-07-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:29 am

Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?

its going to look funny imo. you need to get it lowered to have it maxed cambered so it tucks in neatly when cornering. also if you going to have it at stock height: max camber and roll fenders anyways.

boostmx5 · 08-07-2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:29 am

Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?

I think it will look real bad 4x4 mud bog look

Dicker · 08-07-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom @ Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:29 pm

Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?

i think it would look redonkulous.

i think any aftermarket wheel looks goofy on a tall car.

boostmx5 · 08-07-2006, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicker @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:42 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom @ Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:29 pm

Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?

i think it would look redonkulous.

i think any aftermarket wheel looks goofy on a tall car.

especially when the wheels are 0 offset AND will stick out 2 inches past the fender
If you want wheels like these to fit you have to make them work. If you just bolt them on they will look bad gauranteed

Mx-5 dude · 08-07-2006, 04:13 PM

So If I get these wheels they will stick out 2" past the fenders ? Im assuming the camber and the lower stance will help with this ?

boostmx5 · 08-07-2006, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mx-5 dude @ Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:13 pm

So If I get these wheels they will stick out 2" past the fenders ? Im assuming the camber and the lower stance will help with this ?

well I didnt measure but they will stick out alot matbe 1 or 1.5? Yes the lowered stance, camber and rolled fenders will flush them to your fender not make them stick past out

Here is an example
This is -3.5 camber, slight pull and lowered via coilovers

now same wheels on same car but with stock fenders and h&r springs/tockico combo
As you can see its not low enough and not enough camber (sorry for the crappy pix)

so yeah you be the judge 8)

08-03-2006, 11:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? Im not to savy in terms of what works and will not work for the NB. So as the topic says im wondering if the sportmaxs, 15x8 or 15x7 will fit on my miata. They have a 0 offset and my NB is lowered and because of the icehawk alignment it has a lot of negative camber. thoughts ?
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boostmx5 Jr. Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 71	Re: Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? If you look at my thread u can see them on a Na They will work on a NB A couple things you need neg camber to help with fitment and rubbing, you need to atleast roll your fenders and preferablly pull them, you need to get rid of your fender liners and you need to be low...but it can be done
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Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Re: Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? Ok thanks for the info, I read the thread about your car and It inspired me to look at some black ones for my NB. Im assuming fender rolling wont be to hard. However im just wondering if this would be a smart choice for a daily driver
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08-03-2006, 04:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dicker Esteemed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 3,413	yes, alot of guys drive them however i have my car so low right now my 15x7s are rubbing the insides of my fenders, woo me!
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sonique128 Esteemed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,379	my only complaint with sportmaxes is this:
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08-03-2006, 05:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dicker Esteemed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 3,413	Re: Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? any wheel with a big lip that isnt forged is gonna break like that. now a work or SSR wheel might fair better, but thats what you get when you pay over 3x the price.
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08-03-2006, 07:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Max_Power Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Thousand Oaks, California Posts: 3,818	The sportmax are very lightweight (14lbs only for a 15x8 wheel is really good) and if they are acombined with a 195-50 tire the combo is light with enough sidewall for everyday driving... Furthermore are cheap and easy to replace in case you break them BTW Many people had problems (with bend/broken rims) with the SSR (there was even a webpage dedicated to these problems!!!) and of course they cost 3x of the sportmax
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08-03-2006, 08:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
RusMan Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WA Posts: 526	The fit very good, you have to roll the fenders

08-04-2006, 02:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Thanks for the pics and Info everyone. Im really going to look into getting a set of sportmaxes.
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08-04-2006, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
RusMan Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WA Posts: 526	Re: Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? That broken wheel is also mine Yes it fell apart but I'm still saying that they're great rims, how hard I hit that curb no rim would've survived, yes the more expensive mabye wouldn't split like that but it will rip out your suspension, and I'd rather replace a wheel, which is very cheap, than order a new expensive wheel and a whole new suspension. I very highly recommend this wheel to anyone.

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Dicker Esteemed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 3,413	yeah, im at 11.5 F and 12 rear with a 207 on 15x7+38 my fender liners like to scrape.
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08-05-2006, 02:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Once again thanks for the info guys ! I cant tell you how much this is helping me right now. So looks like I might be placing an order for a set of 15x8 what is the width of the tire ? 205 ?
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08-05-2006, 03:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
RusMan Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WA Posts: 526	I'm running 195/50/15 tire right now, I haven't tried but I think 205 is possible if you pull the fender enough and have more negative camber.

08-05-2006, 01:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dicker Esteemed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 3,413	youyr 195/50 on an 8 is gripping more than a 205/50 on a 7? same tire? because i run 205s on a 7 and am afraid of losing grip going to a 195.
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08-06-2006, 02:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Well damnit !!! I just bought a set of new Azenis two weeks ago. 205/50/15. theres no way im going to get these sport maxs now because I wont have the damn $$$ to buy new tires !!!
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08-06-2006, 07:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
danscreations Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 612	Re: Will sportmaxs fit on a lowered NB ? I bought a set of these wheels about 2 months ago and was very impressed by the look and weight of them. I rolled (not sure if thats what your refering too by pulling them) and couldn't get them to fit with maxing out the camber. Now.. I did have 205/50/15 (i belive 205's for sure) Nitto Neogens which could have been the problem. I was going to order some 195 Toyo's but didn't see how it was going to make that MUCH of a differance. I'm running Tokico Illuminia's with H&R springs. What type of suspension are you all running. Thats the only thing i can figure is smaller tires and and very stiff suspension to make em' work. I sold the wheels and tires and bought some huge ass wheels that look cool and are differant but I want these back and to work as I like the look and diffantly like the weight savings. What I have now: Sportmax 006's 17x8 et+35 Front 17x9 et+35 Rear

08-06-2006, 11:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
RusMan Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WA Posts: 526	I'm running Stance coilovers 9k/7k springs, no rubbing. I used to run d2 with 7k/6k springs and I was rubbing a bit on the corners.

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Dicker Esteemed Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chino Hills CA Posts: 3,413	howd you get 9/7? mine are 8/6 or so i think
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08-07-2006, 02:29 AM	#23 (permalink)
Phantom Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mercer County, NJ Posts: 1,187	Do you guys think the sportmaxs will look bad with out lowering and with a large gap? Also if you don't lower it, is it neccessary to roll the fenders?
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Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	Im running Eibach pro kit springs and KYB AGX for dampers.
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Mx-5 dude Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 369	So If I get these wheels they will stick out 2" past the fenders ? Im assuming the camber and the lower stance will help with this ?
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