+$200 lug nuts!

Camtheman · 10-18-2006, 10:05 PM

Man im going nuts over these lug nuts.......trying to resist pulling out the credit card....

What do you guys think about them?

Can somebody explain the long stud/open lug nut concept to me. If i understand right its a rule on some race courses?? safety?? or is it something to allow you to run spacers when you want and take them off without swaping studs??

link to some specs and pics
http://www.optionimports.com/kiprr40neoch.html

10-18-2006, 10:14 PM

Save your Yen. $35 will do the job:

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...=MutekiOPN-Chr

ExHondaMan · 10-18-2006, 10:47 PM

Long studs *chuckles*, allows for quick and easy rim removal at the track. Ever put on lugnuts and have to hold the top or bottom rim against he rotor so you can thread the lug nut on? Long studs eliminated that. Those blingtastic lug nuts are longer then regular nuts, so I'm assuming its to even out the look.

As Bill said, save your yen.

freedomgli · 10-18-2006, 10:48 PM

Sure, they're both lug nuts and can fasten the wheels to the hubs. But the expensive ones have the nice rotating seat like the McGuard spline drives but without the spline drive security feature which not everyone wants anyways. If you plan on keeping the car forever and have disposable income to blow go for it. You only live once. I don't see a tremendous performance benefit to the lightweight lug nuts but they are cool and unique looking. Keep in mind finding a single matching replacement lug might be difficult if you accidentally lose one. Also might be a theft target. The open ended lugs are good because it helps ensure the lug nut is fully seated when properly torqued. This is especially a concern with extended wheel studs. The cap of the closed end lug nut might bottom out on the stud before it's fully tightened down and seated in the taper resulting in a loose wheel that can cause catastrophic stud fracture and wheel separation.

Full-Bore Motorsports · 10-18-2006, 10:52 PM

Long studs are put on race cars for 2 reasons. 1)You can add wheels spacers or change to wheels with different offset easly and 2) it's a saftey thing that some orgs. require. Long stud= more time before lug nut falls off hence more time to pull over or ignore it and toss a wheel.

Camtheman · 10-19-2006, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Long stud= more time before lug nut falls off hence more time to pull over or ignore it and toss a wheel.

Thats hardcore roadster talk there man

I realized that the extended head allows for easy removal. Those are also threaded almost all the way through for extra thread engagement area.

doesn't really make them worth $200 but i just love the finish and can't stop thinking about them poking out my new rotas (should have them in a few more days =D> )

CrimsonMX5 · 10-19-2006, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill@MiataRoadster.com @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:14 pm

Save your Yen. $35 will do the job:

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...=MutekiOPN-Chr

had those before stripped.

then i switched to these. not bad at all had no problems with it.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...tegory_Code=L1

clshrckr · 10-19-2006, 12:59 AM

why not just go all out with 550 dollar titanium ones

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=425873

10-19-2006, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clshrckr @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:59 pm

why not just go all out with 550 dollar titanium ones

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=425873

FYI, here's the CD page of the maniac who bought those:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/817666

CrimsonMX5 · 10-19-2006, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clshrckr @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:59 pm

why not just go all out with 550 dollar titanium ones

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=425873

oh only $550.00 i'll take 4 sets please

renesisdrms · 10-19-2006, 02:25 AM

i'm rockin kyokuken's too. they had never stripped on me...my only concern is my wheels hub are huge, not letting the stud bottom to the head of the nut-rear only. its like the rear studs are shoter for some reason.thats my only concern which might not affect u may u be using different wheels. hey, kyokukens are cheap and the best bang for the buck...its sturdy, yet pick up 1 nut(hehe) its sooo light. but not aluminum.

Full-Bore Motorsports · 10-19-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camtheman @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:46 pm

Quote:

Long stud= more time before lug nut falls off hence more time to pull over or ignore it and toss a wheel.

Thats hardcore roadster talk there man

I realized that the extended head allows for easy removal. Those are also threaded almost all the way through for extra thread engagement area.

doesn't really make them worth $200 but i just love the finish and can't stop thinking about them poking out my new rotas (should have them in a few more days =D> )

Haha, yea you'd be suprised how often I've seen the long studs come in handy at the track. With all the rushing around I quess people just forget to tighten the kugs or torque them for that matter.

slutz4 · 10-20-2006, 12:47 PM

you guys are all nuts for considering these :shock: especially those 500 dollar titanium ones

freedomgli · 10-20-2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slutz4 @ Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:47 pm

you guys are all nuts for considering these :shock: especially those 500 dollar titanium ones

har har har. I like the Kics lugs because of the rotating seat that protects the wheel finish and helps ensure a more consistent and accurate torque. Only YOU can decide if the asking price is worth it.

slutz4 · 10-20-2006, 02:47 PM

I will agree though, you dont want to go to cheap, because I have seen many cheap lug nuts out there strip

Brian Major · 10-21-2006, 08:09 PM

skunk2 and buddy club both make extended lugs that are under 100. i'd go with either of those before spending 2 times the money.

Maxodus · 10-25-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonMX5 @ 18th October, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill@MiataRoadster.com @ Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:14 pm

Save your Yen. $35 will do the job:

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...=MutekiOPN-Chr

had those before stripped.

then i switched to these. not bad at all had no problems with it.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...tegory_Code=L1

...how did you strip the Muteki nuts?

10-18-2006, 10:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Camtheman Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 145	+$200 lug nuts! Man im going nuts over these lug nuts.......trying to resist pulling out the credit card.... What do you guys think about them? Can somebody explain the long stud/open lug nut concept to me. If i understand right its a rule on some race courses?? safety?? or is it something to allow you to run spacers when you want and take them off without swaping studs?? link to some specs and pics http://www.optionimports.com/kiprr40neoch.html

10-18-2006, 10:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10-18-2006, 10:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
freedomgli Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,192	Re: +$200 lug nuts! Sure, they're both lug nuts and can fasten the wheels to the hubs. But the expensive ones have the nice rotating seat like the McGuard spline drives but without the spline drive security feature which not everyone wants anyways. If you plan on keeping the car forever and have disposable income to blow go for it. You only live once. I don't see a tremendous performance benefit to the lightweight lug nuts but they are cool and unique looking. Keep in mind finding a single matching replacement lug might be difficult if you accidentally lose one. Also might be a theft target. The open ended lugs are good because it helps ensure the lug nut is fully seated when properly torqued. This is especially a concern with extended wheel studs. The cap of the closed end lug nut might bottom out on the stud before it's fully tightened down and seated in the taper resulting in a loose wheel that can cause catastrophic stud fracture and wheel separation.
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10-18-2006, 10:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Full-Bore Motorsports Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 489	Re: +$200 lug nuts! Long studs are put on race cars for 2 reasons. 1)You can add wheels spacers or change to wheels with different offset easly and 2) it's a saftey thing that some orgs. require. Long stud= more time before lug nut falls off hence more time to pull over or ignore it and toss a wheel.
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10-19-2006, 02:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
renesisdrms Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: holly woood Posts: 459	i'm rockin kyokuken's too. they had never stripped on me...my only concern is my wheels hub are huge, not letting the stud bottom to the head of the nut-rear only. its like the rear studs are shoter for some reason.thats my only concern which might not affect u may u be using different wheels. hey, kyokukens are cheap and the best bang for the buck...its sturdy, yet pick up 1 nut(hehe) its sooo light. but not aluminum.
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10-19-2006, 12:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
clshrckr Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CA Posts: 720	why not just go all out with 550 dollar titanium ones http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=425873

10-20-2006, 12:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
slutz4 Esteemed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lawrenceburg Indiana Posts: 3,772	Re: +$200 lug nuts! you guys are all nuts for considering these :shock: especially those 500 dollar titanium ones

10-20-2006, 02:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
slutz4 Esteemed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lawrenceburg Indiana Posts: 3,772	Re: +$200 lug nuts! I will agree though, you dont want to go to cheap, because I have seen many cheap lug nuts out there strip

10-21-2006, 08:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
Brian Major Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 135	skunk2 and buddy club both make extended lugs that are under 100. i'd go with either of those before spending 2 times the money.
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