1vicissitude

I am thinking of making the jump to sportbrakes as my brakes soon need replacing on my 1.6. My look on it is, I might as well upgrade what needs to be replaced instead of waste money on the same old crap.

Curiousity has struck me. With the front rotors on the sport brakes being 11in like the corrado rotors used n the trackspeed BBK. Is there a bracket that can mount wilwood calipers to the sport rotors?

This is for a future mod and I wont be doing it just yet. It will help me pull the trigger on the sport brakes. The sport brakes will be more then enough for me right now. I just really despise the look of our oem calipers. Plus the extended pad life of the wilwoods would be nice.

Also when I switch to the sport brakes I'd like to upgrade my lines with stainlesslines. Will I just need to get lines made for the sportbrake setup or will I run into issues since this is on an NA?

1vicissitude

well if anyone else was interested I found it.

http://www.chikaramotorsports.com/ca...1&cat=5&page=1

Sport brakes+wilwood calipers. Should make for a pretty nice setup.

wankle

i run that setup,i went 11'' on the rear to,you need a adapter to run a ss brake line the willwood caliper

1vicissitude

11in? Do you mean the rear sport brakes too? I'm not aware of a 11in rear rotor unless it comes from one of those BBK kits. They offer the ss lines for $100 for the wilwoods at the time of purchase, its on the drop down menu.

Anyone know the weight difference between the front sport brake rotor and a front corrado rotor? I have read the corrado ones are heavy.

ABNB

I believe the 10.6" sport rotors are even heavier than the corrados. I'll post up the weights tomorrow.

1vicissitude

whats the word?

aalvarez04

I didn't know you could put wilwoods on the sport brakes, very nice!

ABNB

Sorry, forgot about this.

Front 10.6" centric rotor for the mx5 weighs 12.87 lbs.

Front 11" centric corrado rotor weighs 12.64 lbs.

Doppelganger

On US models, the larger so called "sports brakes" came on the 2001 and 2002 suspension package, the LS and the SE. Starting in 2003 all models had them. All of these came with 16" wheels (the Mazdaspeeds had 17" wheels). The models that came with 15" wheels had the same smaller brakes that all '94-00 models had.

Models with 15-inch wheels: 10.0-inch ventilated front discs, 9.9-inch solid rear discs
Models with 16-inch (or 17-inch) wheels: 10.6-inch ventilated front discs, 10.9-inch solid rear discs
Remember it's beneficial to also grab a BMC from a NB with the larger brakes if upgrading from the 1.6 sizing.

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1vicissitude

Thanks everyone for the information. If I'm replaceing em might as well swap em!

1vicissitude

Hey one last question gents.

I have been searching around but i cannot figure this out.

If going with the sport brakes on my 1.6 will I need different brake lines? Like say I already had stainless lines on my brakes now, are they different for the sport brakes in either threading or size compared to the 1.6 calipers?

I'm putting together my shopping list and i dont want to start this and realize half way through I can't screw in the lines.

ABNB

What was the shipped price you got for the front brackets? Web site shows $1500 just for the shipping.

georgesir83

if u want to drive my car to see if u like the wilwoods just let me know
and yeah thats what i am doing next on my brakes
getting the 11'' carrodo caliper all u have to do is put like 1 or 2 walshers in the bracket to space um out ferder thats what i did in my eg
i like the one peice rotor better then the 2 peice it feels way more solid

call me if u need more info or u want to check it out u live a couple of blocks...lol

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1vicissitude

I have not bought them, trying to figure it out. I believe I have read their shipping calculator to the Us doesnt work. You might just want to shoot them an email.

Georgie-you have the wilwoods on the sport brakes right now?

I'm begining to lean towards just nabbing a set of sport brake calipers+brackets with new pads and rotors and calling it good for now. I think I can put it together pretty cheap, and that sounds good to me haha. I'll worry about the wilwoods later on. It has to be leaps and bounds better then the 1.6 brakes.

georgesir83

no i bought the 4 wheel bigbrake kit from goodwin
but the one u are looking at is not bad at all i will just save up and get the wilwoods
big difference

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georgesir83

omg yeah it comes out a lil more then $1600 why so much on shipping wtf....

just get the wilwood big brake kit from goodwin just the fronts are like 800$

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ABNB

Wilwood just released a 11" big brake kit for the miata. ~650 for the front. unknown rear price.

1vicissitude

Really? Its not on their site. Have a link?

ABNB

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=393124

jdmv8

Could go Trackspeed

http://trackspeedengineering.com/sto...-bbk-p-67.html

1vicissitude

two piece rotor too? Goodwin and FM better reprice their stuff, otherwise they are out of the brake game haha. Finally someone sells a Kit at a reasonable price. With the calipers costing 300 for a pair of powdercoated ones, I was always offended by the 1500+price on the wilwood based kits available. Thank you wilwood!

ABNB

Not even a remotely good deal compared to the wilwood kit.

jdmv8

But the guy says he got a deal because he let Wilwood use his car. Do you actually know the real price for the Wilwood kit? I'm asking because I really don't.

1vicissitude

I am going to take a stab in the dark and say the price of $650 seems totally reasonable with the pricing of their other kits running the same calipers and sized rotors. They have a rsx, honda fit, integra, and civic fitting kit right now on sale for $499 on their main page. It comes with free stainless lines too. I'd say things look good.

TimesNewRoman

The guy says he got a deal and the kit will be priced at $650.00 (meaning, he didn't pay $650.00 but Joe-Schmo you and I will pay $650.00).

I'm really excited to see more info on this kit directly from Wilwood. I was all lined up to buy a kit from Goodwin within the next couple months, but this could change everything.

jdmv8

I ended up just building my own kit:

Adapters and Centering Rings no part # Trackspeed Engineering $200.00
Pass. universal hose-14", -3AN Female ends FRA-310014 Summit $8.95
Brake fitting, -3AN Male to 1/8 NPT Male RUS-660411 Summit $3.95
Drvrs. universal hose-14", -3AN Female ends FRA-310014 Summit $8.95
Brake fitting, -3AN Male to 1/8 NPT Male RUS-660411 Summit $3.95
Brake fitting, -3AN Male to M10-1 Female(pair) JEGS 100784 Jegs $9.99
Wilwood Caliper-Pass-1.38" pistons 120-6806 Summit $124.95
Wilwood Caliper-Drivers 120-6806 Summit $124.95
Front Corrado Rotors-Pass NB4886122 Napa $32.99
Front Corrado Rotors-Drivers NB4886122 Napa $32.99
Front Pads-Wilwood Smart Pads 13-1001S Summit $41.00
Rear Pads-Axxis Ultimates 61-0112 Goodwin Racing $52.00

greeenteeee

Do the NBs come with a larger piston BMC? Please share the diameters if you know of them.

Also, here is a link to prop valve info if anyone is interested in changing the brake balance (e.g. your front brakes lock up too much)
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/stock_bpv.php

It's kind of interesting the 16" NB models have 10.6" F and larger 10.9" R rotors...

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Doppelganger

It's 15/16" instead of the 7/8" that is standard on all other Miatas.

Remember that the rear disc is solid, so running a slightly larger rear can dissipate the heat better without having to go to a vented (heavier) rotor.

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1vicissitude

Just got this email from wilwood. Sharing the information.

Thank you for the inquiry with Wilwood Disc Brakes. Our Mazda Miata kit was just released and has not been updated on our website. The kit is for the 95-2005 Miata and includes 11" x 0.81" vented plain-faced rotors, Dynalite 4-piston calipers, BP-10 Street pads (Wilwood), aluminum hat, brackets and hardware. The kit is priced at $634.69 and the line kit (OEM style lines will not work) are part number 220-11751 priced at $66.61 for the front set.

Doppelganger

Nice. Though I'd like to have 6-piston (DP6) calipers with the 11" rotors.

hmmmm

I need to sell these Brembos...

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