Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question

SoCal_Brian · 05-10-2006, 11:45 AM

They are 15x8, will they bolt straight onto a '92 Miata? Or will I need something to help it.

boogie van · 05-10-2006, 11:52 AM

If youre lowered, youre gonna need to roll those fenders, or you could just go with some flares. They should bolt right on though.

I could be wrong but I think thats the same wheel size djsquigles has.

SoCal_Brian · 05-10-2006, 12:02 PM

Hmm ok, I'm not lowered.... yet.

I hope they do because I really want these wheels... look pretty good they only weigh about 16lbs each. Not too expensive either.

Matt [exz3owner] · 05-10-2006, 12:05 PM

brian-

depending on what you use your car for, you may want to carefully consider fitment before you buy them. If you work your car hard enough to fully compress your suspension, these will rub as they sit outside of the wheel arch. there have been a couple postings about fender flares available for our cars, so you may consider that.

thats what I am doing fwiw...

SoCal_Brian · 05-10-2006, 12:29 PM

Hmm, never noticed that because the only Miata I have seen them on HAD fender flares...

Other than it going beyond the fender, will it bolt right on fine?

Matt [exz3owner] · 05-10-2006, 06:44 PM

yeah. it will bolt on.

SoCal_Brian · 05-10-2006, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt [exz3owner

@ Wed May 10, 2006 3:44 pm]yeah. it will bolt on.

Thanks Matt! You are definitely one of my favorite posters here on RJDM. =D>

Matt [exz3owner] · 05-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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thats got to be the first time I've heard that. lol I kind of assumed most people thought I was an A$$.

happy to help. Those wheels will bolt onto the hub, but if I remember correctly, those have a pretty aggressive offset. if you are building a car that drives nicer than it looks, i wouldn't get them...

djsqiigles · 05-10-2006, 08:37 PM

Just remember. You will rub, so be prepared to have your fenders rolled or do the flare thing...

it is a 15x8 +0, exactly what I am running. So I know what is invlovled with making them work with no flares.

SoCal_Brian · 05-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsqiigles @ Wed May 10, 2006 5:37 pm

Just remember. You will rub, so be prepared to have your fenders rolled or do the flare thing...

it is a 15x8 +0, exactly what I am running. So I know what is invlovled with making them work with no flares.

For sure Paul, I saw your Equips and how you had to roll your fenders.

urban · 05-10-2006, 11:52 PM

paul ,how did you roll your fenders?
and what camber are you running?

JDMAflac · 05-11-2006, 01:03 AM

^

Yes please enlighten us as my sportmax002's will be here in 1-2 months (backorder)

b_cruz · 05-11-2006, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsqiigles @ May 10th, 5:37 pm

Just remember. You will rub, so be prepared to have your fenders rolled or do the flare thing...

it is a 15x8 +0, exactly what I am running. So I know what is invlovled with making them work with no flares.

Could you be a little more specific about the fender rolling process you did with your Miata? Can you use the plastic shield under the front fenders still?

Thanks,
BC

SoCal_Brian · 05-11-2006, 01:23 AM

You can do it yourself... just get a bat

Or you can have someone cut and roll them for like 30-50 dollars a fender.

b_cruz · 05-11-2006, 01:36 AM

I have a fender roller tool that I purchased coming in on friday. I was just wondering if you were still able to run the plastic splash guards under the front fenders.

djsqiigles · 05-11-2006, 01:46 AM

yes, i did trim my plastic liners I only have the rear part of plastic.

All plastic liner clips were removed and inner lips roll flat with Flat hammer. Rears where rolled with a fender roller by Aerodyne Industires in Garden Grove.

My car came with aftermarket suspension so when I lowered it the camber was already pretty decent. I do not have any camber specs. Take a look at the pictures I have and take your best guess, it will be as good as mine if not better.

Trial and error kids. When I bought these wheels fitment was ofcourse not a sure thing. We knew some, very small, work had to be done.

Me and my friend did the math and figured everything out on our own.

Its pretty simple and if you enjoy cars you will not mind the extra work that goes into installing some sick lipped wheels which are obviously never ment to fit a miata with untouched fenders.

Go out and try!

-Paul

b_cruz · 05-11-2006, 02:10 AM

Right on Paul. Thanks for the info.Your car is actually what got me interested in Miata's. I saw it on a non Miata board.

-bc

urban · 05-11-2006, 08:07 PM

lol, ty Paul for doing the math.
i have a set of 002's on right now. fenders are allready rolled for the +4 rb's, but these +0 are a bit wider, so i need to break out the bat again. just wondering if i should have someone do it with a roller, thanks for the Aerodyne rec.
ill get a pic up.
these wheels are so played , but i cant help it , i lust offset now. no other way.
i got a great deal from BRS. thanks Mike.
those guys rock.

urban · 05-11-2006, 08:34 PM

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urban · 05-11-2006, 08:47 PM

not sure of the red but , well im happy.

djsqiigles · 05-11-2006, 08:47 PM

Wait.... How can you have 02's on order?

They are discontinued.

Only wheel face Work had instoack was O disk. Those flat and will not clear disk brakes without a spacer(ewww).

I was going to get 02's

I have picture of them taped on my wall still. BEAUTIFUL!

Phatmiata · 05-11-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urban @ Wed May 10, 2006 11:52 pm

paul ,how did you roll your fenders?

I rolled my front fenders back in 99 with a baseball bat so that i could fit my 17"s, back then i aint know about such fancy tools as this, #-o hehehehe.......... a baseball bat is cheaper, but man this looks MUCH easier/faster/precise ..... here you go.....................

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT

PhatMiata-san (^_^)

kung fu jesus · 05-12-2006, 07:12 AM

enjoy the whacked scrub radius.

freedomgli · 05-12-2006, 07:39 AM

Wider track width more than make up for any change in scrub radius.

kung fu jesus · 05-12-2006, 08:59 AM

o rly?

and brake torque and trammeling?

awesome.

freedomgli · 05-12-2006, 10:07 AM

I think that whether it's worth it or not depends on what tradeoffs or compromises one is willing to live with. I don't understand what you mean by brake torque since it is what slows the car down every time I step on the middle pedal but I can live with tramlining if it means I'm 3 seconds faster than you on an auto-x course. This obviously isn't a benign street setup. Rather it's geared towards those trying to acheive a certain look or those who have lots of horsepower and/or want ultimate grip at the expense of everything else.

kung fu jesus · 05-12-2006, 11:34 AM

according to your logic, this guy must kick your butt all over the parking lot, er, autocross course:

urban · 05-12-2006, 12:31 PM

thanks kung fu,
i know all about scrub radius, but 40mm offset is Gay. and with my +4 rb's ,i will spank you all over the autoX or track. :shock:

.
(no ill intentions,just a wacked comment) =D>

kung fu jesus · 05-12-2006, 01:51 PM

no worries. lol @ the autocross comment. autocross=

superboosted · 05-20-2006, 09:20 PM

Now,Now....

Take it to miata.net

......That offset look's f'n cool.Car needs to come down a bit in the rear.

05-10-2006, 11:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
SoCal_Brian Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster, CA Posts: 593	Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question They are 15x8, will they bolt straight onto a '92 Miata? Or will I need something to help it.
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05-10-2006, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
boogie van Esteemed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: locust grove va Posts: 2,930	If youre lowered, youre gonna need to roll those fenders, or you could just go with some flares. They should bolt right on though. I could be wrong but I think thats the same wheel size djsquigles has.
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05-10-2006, 12:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
SoCal_Brian Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster, CA Posts: 593	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question Hmm ok, I'm not lowered.... yet. I hope they do because I really want these wheels... look pretty good they only weigh about 16lbs each. Not too expensive either.
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05-10-2006, 12:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	brian- depending on what you use your car for, you may want to carefully consider fitment before you buy them. If you work your car hard enough to fully compress your suspension, these will rub as they sit outside of the wheel arch. there have been a couple postings about fender flares available for our cars, so you may consider that. thats what I am doing fwiw...
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05-10-2006, 12:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
SoCal_Brian Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster, CA Posts: 593	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question Hmm, never noticed that because the only Miata I have seen them on HAD fender flares... Other than it going beyond the fender, will it bolt right on fine?
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05-10-2006, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	yeah. it will bolt on.
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Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question \/ thats got to be the first time I've heard that. lol I kind of assumed most people thought I was an A$$. happy to help. Those wheels will bolt onto the hub, but if I remember correctly, those have a pretty aggressive offset. if you are building a car that drives nicer than it looks, i wouldn't get them...
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05-10-2006, 08:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
djsqiigles Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fountain Valley, CA Posts: 2,576	Just remember. You will rub, so be prepared to have your fenders rolled or do the flare thing... it is a 15x8 +0, exactly what I am running. So I know what is invlovled with making them work with no flares.

05-10-2006, 11:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
urban Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,295	paul ,how did you roll your fenders? and what camber are you running?
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05-11-2006, 01:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
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05-11-2006, 01:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
SoCal_Brian Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westminster, CA Posts: 593	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question You can do it yourself... just get a bat Or you can have someone cut and roll them for like 30-50 dollars a fender.
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05-11-2006, 01:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
b_cruz Noob Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	I have a fender roller tool that I purchased coming in on friday. I was just wondering if you were still able to run the plastic splash guards under the front fenders.
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05-11-2006, 01:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
djsqiigles Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fountain Valley, CA Posts: 2,576	yes, i did trim my plastic liners I only have the rear part of plastic. All plastic liner clips were removed and inner lips roll flat with Flat hammer. Rears where rolled with a fender roller by Aerodyne Industires in Garden Grove. My car came with aftermarket suspension so when I lowered it the camber was already pretty decent. I do not have any camber specs. Take a look at the pictures I have and take your best guess, it will be as good as mine if not better. Trial and error kids. When I bought these wheels fitment was ofcourse not a sure thing. We knew some, very small, work had to be done. Me and my friend did the math and figured everything out on our own. Its pretty simple and if you enjoy cars you will not mind the extra work that goes into installing some sick lipped wheels which are obviously never ment to fit a miata with untouched fenders. Go out and try! -Paul

05-11-2006, 02:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
b_cruz Noob Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	Right on Paul. Thanks for the info.Your car is actually what got me interested in Miata's. I saw it on a non Miata board. -bc
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05-11-2006, 08:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
urban Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,295	lol, ty Paul for doing the math. i have a set of 002's on right now. fenders are allready rolled for the +4 rb's, but these +0 are a bit wider, so i need to break out the bat again. just wondering if i should have someone do it with a roller, thanks for the Aerodyne rec. ill get a pic up. these wheels are so played , but i cant help it , i lust offset now. no other way. i got a great deal from BRS. thanks Mike. those guys rock.

05-11-2006, 08:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
djsqiigles Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fountain Valley, CA Posts: 2,576	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question Wait.... How can you have 02's on order? They are discontinued. Only wheel face Work had instoack was O disk. Those flat and will not clear disk brakes without a spacer(ewww). I was going to get 02's I have picture of them taped on my wall still. BEAUTIFUL!

05-12-2006, 07:12 AM	#23 (permalink)
kung fu jesus Ninja Messiah Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 5,894	enjoy the whacked scrub radius.
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05-12-2006, 07:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
freedomgli Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,192	Wider track width more than make up for any change in scrub radius.
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05-12-2006, 08:59 AM	#25 (permalink)
kung fu jesus Ninja Messiah Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 5,894	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question o rly? and brake torque and trammeling? awesome.
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05-12-2006, 10:07 AM	#26 (permalink)
freedomgli Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,192	I think that whether it's worth it or not depends on what tradeoffs or compromises one is willing to live with. I don't understand what you mean by brake torque since it is what slows the car down every time I step on the middle pedal but I can live with tramlining if it means I'm 3 seconds faster than you on an auto-x course. This obviously isn't a benign street setup. Rather it's geared towards those trying to acheive a certain look or those who have lots of horsepower and/or want ultimate grip at the expense of everything else.
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05-12-2006, 11:34 AM	#27 (permalink)
kung fu jesus Ninja Messiah Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 5,894	according to your logic, this guy must kick your butt all over the parking lot, er, autocross course:
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05-12-2006, 12:31 PM	#28 (permalink)
urban Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 4,295	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question thanks kung fu, i know all about scrub radius, but 40mm offset is Gay. and with my +4 rb's ,i will spank you all over the autoX or track. :shock: . (no ill intentions,just a wacked comment) =D>

05-12-2006, 01:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
kung fu jesus Ninja Messiah Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 5,894	no worries. lol @ the autocross comment. autocross=
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05-20-2006, 09:20 PM	#30 (permalink)
superboosted Jr. Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: shitzville,PA Posts: 81	Re: Sportmax 002 Primax wheel fitment question Now,Now.... Take it to miata.net ......That offset look's f'n cool.Car needs to come down a bit in the rear.

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