paulgt2164

My wife and I both love my P238. Fantastic little gun.

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Animal78

+ me I love my p238, I still love my Springfield EMP 40 even more though. Hate my wifes glock 26. It's ok and it's accurate enough.

The 938 is nice too. A tad more kick but the grip dimensions are different for the larger rounds and that helps you get a better handle on it. It's on my list of wants.

Catchpole

The latest bout of New York anti-gun legislation is making its rounds; this time it's a supposed bill that will require a million dollar insurance policy in order to legally own a gun.

The gist of the bill can be seen in this article; however, a quick search for bill S2353 (as mentioned in the article) leads to a bill about journalism. Has anyone actually seen/heard anything about this from a more legitimate medium?

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Mx-p5

agreed. LGS doesn't have a 938 in stock. I'm curious how it feels vs the 238 HD weight wise

I like the all stainless of the HD

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I'll bet you do.



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ecto_cooler

i found someone willing to even trade my 226r for a 229r. the gun started out as a .40 DAK but he used 9mm DA/SA parts to convert. has 2 barrels, one the original .40 and another SIG .40 barrel that needs gunsmithing to use. which is odd because i thought SIG barrels in the same caliber for the same gun were drop-in. comes with 2 guide rods as well, and 3x mags.

only prob is the guy being located in Cincinnati. so either i go the immediate family route - and my grandfather might not qualify - or go through an FFL to complete the trade. which means fees etc...

opinions?

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AnonymousOne

Road trip.

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Tekel

Went to cabelas and gander today. Cabelas had a box full of some garbage no name ar15 30 round mags for $30 each and about 7 boxes no name Russian steel 7.62x39 for $7 each. Neither had .22lr or .223. *sigh*. No need to ban guns. We can't even get ammo.

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ecto_cooler

is location the only thing keeping me from being able to take ownership of his gun and vice/versa? not going to step on any toes since i will be taking it out of state with me. there's no registration in TX and from what i understand nothing in ohio but i dont know if some federal law supersedes either.

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ecto_cooler

answered my own question - had to be resourceful w my searching since work firewall filters a lot of related resources.

have to go through an ffl to buy his gun.

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Bryan

Funny thing is that I'm going to be running the Cowtown 10K in Ft. Worth this weekend. Sadly, despite my location, I'd be of no use in a firearms purchase

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ecto_cooler

oh hey. im going to be drinking all day saturday but you're more than welcome to stop by and say hi if you're around.

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Stratford Mercenarie

Read that the government is even buying 22LR ammo, with all the ammo being bought by DHS you think its to lessen availability to public?

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Teleph0nes

^of course.

Tekel

^^ Joins miata forum... has 4 posts all in pub...

THE FEDS HAVE FOUND US!

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Derek86

Seriously.

~ Derek

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77th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2013 Regular Session
House Bill 3200
Sponsored by Representative GREENLICK; Representatives BAILEY, BUCKLEY, DEMBROW, FREDERICK, READ,
REARDON, TOMEI, Senators BURDICK, DINGFELDER, HASS, MONNES ANDERSON, MONROE, SHIELDS,
STEINER HAYWARD
SUMMARY
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject
to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor’s brief statement of the essential features of the
measure as introduced.
Creates crime of unlawful possession or transfer of assault weapon or large capacity magazine.
Punishes by maximum penalty of 10 years’ imprisonment, $250,000 fine, or both.
Requires current owners to dispose of or register assault weapons and large capacity magazines.
Directs Department of State Police to conduct background checks and maintain registry of as-
sault weapons and large capacity magazines.
Declares emergency, effective on passage.
A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to firearms; and declaring an emergency.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. Sections 2 to 5 of this 2013 Act are added to and made a part of ORS 166.410
to 166.470.
SECTION 2. As used in sections 2 to 5 of this 2013 Act:
(1)(a) “Assault weapon” means any:
(A) Semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:
(i) A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
(ii) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger
hand;
(iii) A folding or telescoping stock; or
(iv) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
(B) Semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire or rimfire rifle with a fixed
magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition;
(C) Semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one of more of the following:
(i) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger
hand;
(ii) A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock;
(iii) A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel,
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or
(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol
grip;
NOTE: Matter in boldfaced type in an amended section is new; matter [italic and bracketed] is existing law to be omitted.
New sections are in boldfaced type.
LC 3018
(D) Semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:
(i) A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
(ii) Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger
hand;
(iii) A folding or telescoping stock;
(iv) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or
(v) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;
(E) Shotgun with a revolving cylinder; and
(F) Conversion kit, part or combination of parts from which an assault weapon can be
assembled if those parts are in the possession or under control of the same person.
(b) “Assault weapon” does not include any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable.
(2) “Criminal background check” has the meaning given that term in ORS 166.432.
(3) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be loaded or
unloaded while detached from a firearm and readily inserted into a firearm.
(4) “Fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in or permanently
attached to a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly
of the firearm action.
(5) “Large capacity magazine” means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity
to accept more than 10 rounds or any conversion kit, part or combination of parts from
which such a device can be assembled, but does not include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate
more than 10 rounds;
(b) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device; or
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
SECTION 3. (1) A person commits the crime of unlawful possession or transfer of an
assault weapon or large capacity magazine if the person manufactures, imports, possesses,
purchases, sells or transfers any assault weapon or large capacity magazine.
(2) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:
(a) Any government officer, agent or employee, member of the Armed Forces of the
United States or peace officer as that term is defined in ORS 133.005 if that person is otherwise
authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon or large capacity magazine and
does so while acting within the scope of that person’s duties;
(b) The manufacture of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine by a firearms
manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States
or to a law enforcement agency in this state for use by that agency or its employees, provided
the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal, state and local laws; or
(c) The sale or transfer of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine by a firearms
dealer licensed under 18 U.S.C. 923 to any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States
or to a law enforcement agency in this state for use by that agency or its employees for law
enforcement purposes.
(3) Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of
an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall, within 120 days after the effective date
of this 2013 Act, without being subject to prosecution:
(a) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state;
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(b) Sell the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to a firearms dealer licensed under
18 U.S.C. 923 for lawful sale or transfer under subsection (2) of this section;
(c) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to a law enforcement
agency for destruction;
(d) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(e) If eligible, register the assault weapon or large capacity magazine as provided in
section 4 of this 2013 Act.
(4) A person acquiring an assault weapon or large capacity magazine by inheritance, bequest
or succession shall, within 120 days after acquiring title, without being subject to
prosecution under this section:
(a) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to a law enforcement
agency for destruction;
(b) Transfer the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to a firearms dealer licensed
under 18 U.S.C. 923 for lawful sale or transfer under subsection (2) of this section;
(c) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(d) If eligible, register the assault weapon or large capacity magazine as provided in
section 4 of this 2013 Act.
(5) Unlawful possession or transfer of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine is a
Class B felony.
SECTION 4. (1) Any person seeking to register an assault weapon or large capacity
magazine shall do so as provided in this section within 120 days after the effective date of
this 2013 Act.
(2) In order to register an assault weapon under this section, a person must:
(a) Be the lawful owner of the assault weapon prior to the effective date of this 2013 Act;
and
(b) Submit to a criminal background check conducted by the Department of State Police
to confirm that the person is not a prohibited possessor under ORS 166.250.
(3) In order to register a large capacity magazine under this section, a person must:
(a) Be the lawful owner of the large capacity magazine prior to the effective date of this
2013 Act; and
(b) Submit to a criminal background check conducted by the department to confirm that
the person is not a prohibited possessor under ORS 166.250.
(4) A person may not register more than one assault weapon and three large capacity
magazines under this section. Additional assault weapons and large capacity magazines must
be disposed of in the manner specified in section 3 of this 2013 Act.
(5) A registered owner of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine is required to:
(a) Securely store the assault weapon or large capacity magazine pursuant to rules and
regulations adopted by the department;
(b) Allow an inspector from the department to inspect the storage of assault weapons
and large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with this subsection;
(c) Possess the assault weapon or large capacity magazine only:
(A) On property owned or immediately controlled by the registered owner;
(B) On the premises of a firearms dealer or gunsmith licensed under 18 U.S.C. 923 for the
purpose of lawful repair;
(C) While engaged in the legal use of the assault weapon or large capacity magazine at
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a public or private shooting range, shooting gallery or other area designed and built for the
purpose of target shooting; or
(D) While transporting the weapon in a vehicle as permitted in ORS 166.250; and
(d) Report the loss or theft of a registered assault weapon or large capacity magazine to
the appropriate law enforcement agency within 48 hours of the discovery of the loss or theft.
(6) A registered owner of an assault or large capacity magazine may not sell or transfer
the assault weapon or large capacity magazine except to a firearms dealer or gunsmith licensed
under 18 U.S.C. 923 for lawful sale or transfer under section 3 (2) of this 2013 Act or
for the purpose of disposal as provided in section 3 of this 2013 Act.
SECTION 5. (1) Upon receipt of a request from a person seeking to register an assault
weapon or large capacity magazine, the Department of State Police shall determine from
criminal records and other available information whether the potential registrant is disqualified
under ORS 166.250 from possessing the assault weapon or large capacity magazine.
(2) The department may adopt a fee schedule for criminal background checks as provided
in ORS 166.414.
(3) The department shall create and maintain a registry for owners of assault weapons
and large capacity magazines who qualify for registration under section 4 of this 2013 Act.
The department may adopt rules concerning the administration of the registry, including but
not limited to renewal and revocation procedures and storage requirements for assault
weapons and large capacity magazines.
(4) The department may conduct inspections of registered owners of assault weapons and
large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with the storage requirements of section 4
of this 2013 Act.
SECTION 6. This 2013 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public
peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2013 Act takes effect
on its passage.
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ScarfaceThe91

lol

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DSC_0123 by PaulGT2164, on Flickr

Made a few additions to the ole' 10/22

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AnonymousOne

That is a wacky stock ... I like it.

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Tekel

Sigh. My upper is never shipping. First expected 1/6. Then 2/24. Now 5/17

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paulgt2164

I wasn't sold on it at first, then I put it all together and really like it. It is also very comfortable to use.

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Mx-p5

picked up two new 50 round mags for the 10/22 this weekend

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Tekel

Hmmm... S&W Bodyguard or Ruger lcp

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Bryan

Sure looks crazy, but does look comfy to shoot.

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Teleph0nes

The lc9 has the longest trigger pull known to man. I would assume the lcp is similar, since they are basically the same gun, just slightly different sizes and calibers. I've never shot a bodyguard, so I can't help you there.

7urtle

S&w >ruger

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paulgt2164

Sig P238 or 938?

If not, then the S&W. I hate Ruger LCPs. Don't even bother considering the Taurus TCP.

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I love my P238 because it is so much easier to shoot accurately compared to my old LCP.

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