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Old 07-09-2007, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WTF?!?!?!?!?!

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I love to see them come to mississippi or alabama and start some shit like that. Look what happened to the top gear guys!

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I love to see them come to mississippi or alabama and start some shit like that. Look what happened to the top gear guys!

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You know, this is a pretty complicated subject.

At first I felt like I wanted to punch every single one of them in the face as hard as I could until I couldn't muster up any more strength. They contradict themselves in everything they do and say, and I couldn't think of any other way to get through to them.

But, after watching the entire "documentary," I feel bad for them. Well, let me clarify that - I feel bad for the ones that never really had a choice and were forced into that lifestyle and way of thinking. The others, well...they're just screwing themselves. But, the little kids...the ones who don't even understand what the sign means that they're holding...they shouldn't be forced into thinking what the others tell them to. They should be able to have a choice and to live their lives to the fullest and be happy. The older siblings are just as bad, considering they have the want to explore other thoughts and to open their minds but the fear of being ostracized from the family prevents them from venturing on their own.

All the family really does is condemn themselves and their children. If they hate America so much, then why don't they move to a country where they can't even speak their mind because nothing is allowed that doesn't comply with their religion?
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You know, this is a pretty complicated subject.

At first I felt like I wanted to punch every single one of them in the face as hard as I could until I couldn't muster up any more strength. They contradict themselves in everything they do and say, and I couldn't think of any other way to get through to them.

But, after watching the entire "documentary," I feel bad for them. Well, let me clarify that - I feel bad for the ones that never really had a choice and were forced into that lifestyle and way of thinking. The others, well...they're just screwing themselves. But, the little kids...the ones who don't even understand what the sign means that they're holding...they shouldn't be forced into thinking what the others tell them to. They should be able to have a choice and to live their lives to the fullest and be happy. The older siblings are just as bad, considering they have the want to explore other thoughts and to open their minds but the fear of being ostracized from the family prevents them from venturing on their own.

All the family really does is condemn themselves and their children. If they hate America so much, then why don't they move to a country where they can't even speak their mind because nothing is allowed that doesn't comply with their religion?

I agree with what you say.

And as much as I'm against homosexuality, and everyone is entitled their own opinion....damn, those people are nuts!
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What I don't understand is the fact that they know they're not changing anyone's lifestyles; they know they're just pissing people off, but they keep doing it anyway.

Like you said, everyone's entitled to their opinions but why try to interfere with others? Especially if you know you're not going to get through to them.
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What I don't understand is the fact that they know they're not changing anyone's lifestyles; they know they're just pissing people off, but they keep doing it anyway.

Like you said, everyone's entitled to their opinions but why try to interfere with others? Especially if you know you're not going to get through to them.
I wonder if they do it for the publicity or the attention? Maybe to get more people to their church?
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They've got to be making some serious money somehow, unless I didn't get the joke when he asked her how much they spend on plane tickets per year...
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I like how the lady named her kid GAYbriel!
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These people can have their opinion, but to think that a soldier who fights against Americas enemies and dies because God hates Gay people?
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They show up to the funerals of the soldiers who died in battle and provide a buffer between the crazy religious nut jobs and the family of the deceased.
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I love to see them come to mississippi or alabama and start some shit like that. Look what happened to the top gear guys!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dZLyGqAnRLA
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They should be shot. If I was at the funeral of a friend or family member and they were doing that shit I'd fucking kill them all. The world would be a better place.
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Ok... Personal opinions aside, I feel it neccessary to correct some of what she is fasly preaching. This is simply what the bible says!

First:
We are charged to Love one another (Matthew 19:19) as we love our neighbors. The bible does not go into description of our neighbors, so we must assume that there are no criteria by which we should love. Therefore, we must love everyone; be they black, white, yellow, pink w/ purple polka dots, homosexual, heterosexual, or just plain confused. Jesus loved all people and we are called to imitate him (1 Corinthians 11:1)

Second:
GOD doesn't just love christians he loves everyone (John 3:16)!!! He loves ALL of us so much that he gave his only son. By all I mean ALL, everyone; regardless of race, creed, or sex. And he is no respecter of persons (Galatians 2:6); therefore we again see that it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Jesus surrounded himself with a bunch of low-lifes, tax collectors, and prositutes who were equally unwelcome in the church as homosexuality is today. I wish the whole world would reach out a helping hand as opposed to a swift punch.

Third:
We are not allowed to judge other people (Matthew 7:3-4) until we can look at ourselves and find no fault. What good would it do for me to point out everyone elses sins when I am sinning equally as much.

Fourth:
We are not supposed to try to stir up a big ole crap storm just to be heard (Proverbs 6:16-19 emphasis on 19). We are supposed to strive to be like Jesus (1 Cor 11:1) and he never hated anyone, made anyone sick, rejected anyone, or sinned.

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Ok... Personal opinions aside, I feel it neccessary to correct some of what she is fasly preaching. This is simply what the bible says!

First:
We are charged to Love one another (Matthew 19:19) as we love our neighbors. The bible does not go into description of our neighbors, so we must assume that there are no criteria by which we should love. Therefore, we must love everyone; be they black, white, yellow, pink w/ purple polka dots, homosexual, heterosexual, or just plain confused. Jesus loved all people and we are called to imitate him (1 Corinthians 11:1)

Second:
GOD doesn't just love christians he loves everyone (John 3:16)!!! He loves ALL of us so much that he gave his only son. By all I mean ALL, everyone; regardless of race, creed, or sex. And he is no respecter of persons (Galatians 2:6); therefore we again see that it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Jesus surrounded himself with a bunch of low-lifes, tax collectors, and prositutes who were equally unwelcome in the church as homosexuality is today. I wish the whole world would reach out a helping hand as opposed to a swift punch.

Third:
We are not allowed to judge other people (Matthew 7:3-4) until we can look at ourselves and find no fault. What good would it do for me to point out everyone elses sins when I am sinning equally as much.

Fourth:
We are not supposed to try to stir up a big ole crap storm just to be heard (Proverbs 6:16-19 emphasis on 19). We are supposed to strive to be like Jesus (1 Cor 11:1) and he never hated anyone, made anyone sick, rejected anyone, or sinned.

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This is what I believe, if you guys want to get in a discussion over it or ask questions thats fine... Shoot. Keep in mind though this is what I believe to be true and all the argueing in the world isn't going to change my opinion. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by webba1 @ Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:19 pm
Ok... Personal opinions aside, I feel it neccessary to correct some of what she is fasly preaching. This is simply what the bible says!

First:
We are charged to Love one another (Matthew 19:19) as we love our neighbors. The bible does not go into description of our neighbors, so we must assume that there are no criteria by which we should love. Therefore, we must love everyone; be they black, white, yellow, pink w/ purple polka dots, homosexual, heterosexual, or just plain confused. Jesus loved all people and we are called to imitate him (1 Corinthians 11:1)

Second:
GOD doesn't just love christians he loves everyone (John 3:16)!!! He loves ALL of us so much that he gave his only son. By all I mean ALL, everyone; regardless of race, creed, or sex. And he is no respecter of persons (Galatians 2:6); therefore we again see that it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from. Jesus surrounded himself with a bunch of low-lifes, tax collectors, and prositutes who were equally unwelcome in the church as homosexuality is today. I wish the whole world would reach out a helping hand as opposed to a swift punch.

Third:
We are not allowed to judge other people (Matthew 7:3-4) until we can look at ourselves and find no fault. What good would it do for me to point out everyone elses sins when I am sinning equally as much.

Fourth:
We are not supposed to try to stir up a big ole crap storm just to be heard (Proverbs 6:16-19 emphasis on 19). We are supposed to strive to be like Jesus (1 Cor 11:1) and he never hated anyone, made anyone sick, rejected anyone, or sinned.

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This is what I believe, if you guys want to get in a discussion over it or ask questions thats fine... Shoot. Keep in mind though this is what I believe to be true and all the argueing in the world isn't going to change my opinion. Thanks guys.
Not to be a complete ass, but have you read the old testament? =;

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13

Just to name one of the many...

What is preached is not necessarily false or true as all things in theology are subjective to the interpretations given to it by each individual.

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Right, God does say it is a sin to be gay but you're still not suposed to hate them.
They are still your brothers and sisters.
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