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Old 03-29-2007, 01:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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WOW Cloin that first shot is AMAZING...

So I'm very curious about this talk of diong multiple pictures and then PSing them together later? Or am I not getting that right?

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im guessing the first one you just replaced the sky looking at the shading.....if im wrong then damn that day looked crazy
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Pics taken with a Canon G6 using a tripod. Mild PS adjustments brightness + contrast, as well as a quick touch up with neat image.

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WOW Cloin that first shot is AMAZING...

So I'm very curious about this talk of diong multiple pictures and then PSing them together later? Or am I not getting that right?

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My guess is this is what he did:

http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/inde...ake-HDR-images
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ThePass - what i've seen people do on colored cars in low light such as yours is to play with the selective color under the image>adjustments menu in photoshop.

i tried fixing it up myself, i pulled all of the cyan out of the red layer and upped the black in the red layer. then i brightened it up in the neutral layer by subtracting a bit of black, then adding just a little bit more black in the black layer.

i'm sure there are better ideas for that, but this is what i got lol. takes just a couple seconds

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WOW Cloin that first shot is AMAZING...

So I'm very curious about this talk of diong multiple pictures and then PSing them together later? Or am I not getting that right?

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My guess is this is what he did:

http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/inde...ake-HDR-images
Alot of people use HDR photography for automotive cars, but they tend to overdo it and really drone out the true quality of the car and its surroundings in the picture..

I don't use HDR, strictly layers and color editing in photoshop.
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This is my first try at blurring a background. I took the long way around and hand selected the car because the magic wand wouldn't do it right, so I used the polygonal selection tool and just made like a thousand selection points around the Miata.

I obviously adjusted the levels and contrast as well.

Tell me honestly, what do you guys think (for a first try)?

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The miata is exploding flowers...
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Haha, yeah...I suppose it does kind of look like that! #-o

Oh well, it's a Dogwood tree...they always kind of reminded me of Sakura's. Sucks they only stay around for such a short part of the year though.
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And here's an edit of the original edit I posted - this one's just for shits and giggles. I realize it's mainly a botched job, but I wondered what it would look like lowered with bronze wheels:

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Bluring of the background too much makes the image seem not genuine, life like. The field of depth is not correct. Depend on your lense to create the bluring of the background, don't over do it in editing. To me, the idea of editing is to enhance a photo's final effect while making believe that it's all original off the camera, but give out hints that it's been edited. Of course, there are exceptions.
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WOW Cloin that first shot is AMAZING...

So I'm very curious about this talk of diong multiple pictures and then PSing them together later? Or am I not getting that right?

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My guess is this is what he did:

http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/inde...ake-HDR-images
Alot of people use HDR photography for automotive cars, but they tend to overdo it and really drone out the true quality of the car and its surroundings in the picture..

I don't use HDR, strictly layers and color editing in photoshop.
Reaaally, just playing with the balances? How do you get the color depth across the shot to have all the info you need to tweak it later?
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just to add on, what i said earlier, if you take the picture right the first time then you wouldn't need to ps it

just using the right aperture to get only your car would blur the backround
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just to add on, what i said earlier, if you take the picture right the first time then you wouldn't need to ps it

just using the right aperture to get only your car would blur the backround
I think all photos can benefit from editing. I believe of course the original can be a very great shot, but after editing, it can be even better. Even before the days of digital photos, editing was done in the dark room, although not quit as extensive. All of the great shots I've seen have been edited.
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I think there is a line in photo editing between enhancing and image and falsifying an image. For me, photoshopping a field of depth blur is getting into falsifying and makes me not trust what I am seeing.. Just my view of course! :wink:
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just to add on, what i said earlier, if you take the picture right the first time then you wouldn't need to ps it

just using the right aperture to get only your car would blur the backround
I think all photos can benefit from editing. I believe of course the original can be a very great shot, but after editing, it can be even better. Even before the days of digital photos, editing was done in the dark room, although not quit as extensive. All of the great shots I've seen have been edited.
Uh yeah. My day job is working in the print production studio for an advertising agency. ALL of our images have post processing done to them. You're kidding yourself if you think that anything you see out in the world is as shot. That being said, yes if you use the right aperature for the depth you want to achieve is better than falsely bluring the background. But for an image like Cloin's, I just don't think there is any way to get those results without some retouching. I always have to do multiple shots (one metered for the subject and one for the sky) or do some heavy retouching to get the depth like that in the clouds. But that's just me.
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Bluring of the background too much makes the image seem not genuine, life like. The field of depth is not correct. Depend on your lense to create the bluring of the background, don't over do it in editing. To me, the idea of editing is to enhance a photo's final effect while making believe that it's all original off the camera, but give out hints that it's been edited. Of course, there are exceptions.
it looks like it might have been successful if he left the pavement unblurred, then just blurred everything after the sidewalk.

its also a perfect example of what i said at the beginning of the thread about locations and angles, trying to not have poles or anything growing out of the top of your car.
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Thanks for the constructive criticism guys, I appreciate it.

I wasn't using a lens or anything, I only have a Canon Powershot A540 digital camera so the gaussin (sp?) blur was done in PS. I see what you're saying about having the foreground and also the car itself not be blurry but the actual background itself, it would make the picture look much more realistic instead of edited.
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Here's a few I shot of jdmeg2's car... DOF was added since my point and shoot sony refused to do it...




Not roadster...a few of my friend's Impreza--just white balance adjustment:


DOF (fake) added... and quickly at that:

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I'd say that's a pretty perfect example of how to force DOF in photoshop. Nicely done.

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ThePass - what i've seen people do on colored cars in low light such as yours is to play with the selective color under the image>adjustments menu in photoshop.

i tried fixing it up myself, i pulled all of the cyan out of the red layer and upped the black in the red layer. then i brightened it up in the neutral layer by subtracting a bit of black, then adding just a little bit more black in the black layer.

i'm sure there are better ideas for that, but this is what i got lol. takes just a couple seconds

Awesome, thanks for the advice. Very cool how you can bring more color in the car out even when its not in the original shot. I'm starting to play with all the functions under Image>Adjustments...

Oh, and maybe I missed this guys but what is DOF? Depth of Focus?
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Oh what the heck, here are a few befor and afters.







I guess when I get home I just don't want to retouch any of my own stuff. I need to get out of that rut.
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DOF= Depth of field.

One thing about adjustments, if you work with adjustment layers then you can easily turn them off and on to see the changes. Then if you don't like what you did you can trash the layer rather than starting over. Plus as an adjustment layer you can always go back and tweak the adjustment if need be. Then you never have to guess what adjustments you did to an image.

Oh and I always duplicate the starting image in layers before I start retouching on it. I can see where I was without having to open the original image again.
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if y'all want to you can play with this one. i thought it looked good this evening. nothing super cool, but the color contrast is nice..



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Here's my DOF fajetry:



And long exposure shot use with a point and click Canon SD400. And a bit of photoshop post-processing (levels, dodge/burn):

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sonique - that first one there seems weird something about it seems like the background woulndt be blurred even if you shot it with a proper camera.
that second pic is pretty rad, though. i should try something like that.
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Sonique - lovin the pics. The first one looks great, I like the detail in the ground in front of the car... I think reckless is right though, the blurred background feels off... I think its because it is one constant level of blur - its not depth dependent as it would be if the picture were shot with the aperture set to blur the background some... as in the closer building on the right is blurred the same amount as the home that is farther away... Maybe that's it, can't quite put my finger on it..
Still, a cool shot and definitely like the second one.
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Some dummy name Tim Ballen or something.. Never heard of him or his car..







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that guys got mad crazy focusing.
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