mazda racing xkit

viciousclipse · 06-15-2006, 01:08 PM

anybody running a xkit by racing mazda?

gotxqss · 06-16-2006, 09:35 AM

Sure there is a few what ya need? Maybe something can be answered or just looking for furs hand owners?

viciousclipse · 06-19-2006, 12:39 PM

just havent heard much about them, want to get one for a 1.6, any complaints, what kind of power are you gettin. Im looking for 250 to 300 on a stock block. I was also thinking about a custom setup with a gt30r. Any ideas?

viciousclipse · 06-19-2006, 12:39 PM

just havent heard much about them, want to get one for a 1.6, any complaints, what kind of power are you gettin. Im looking for 250 to 300 on a stock block. I was also thinking about a custom setup with a gt30r. Any ideas?

06-19-2006, 01:12 PM

See m.net for many horror stories about Racing Mazda. Buyer beware!

Here's just the latest:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=182736

viciousclipse · 06-20-2006, 09:08 AM

yea dont really want to get involved in something like that. What kind of setups are people running for drag/street? Anyone running a gt30r?

06-20-2006, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viciousclipse @ Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:08 am

yea dont really want to get involved in something like that. What kind of setups are people running for drag/street? Anyone running a gt30r?

I'm planning on running a GT3076R, but that's in the future. Have to get my car running first

JDMAflac · 06-20-2006, 01:50 PM

I guess im crossing off mazda racing 2.5 downpipe off my list. Not supporting them at all.

Ike · 06-20-2006, 10:59 PM

You should check out BEGI. I should say that they are finishing up my 1.6L T28 based kit right now. (pics here --> http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages...systems16.html) Corky would me more than happy to discuss options with you. Although there stock kit will be primarily for T25 and T28 turbos, they can drill the mani for T3 very easily.

I don't know your experience with high HP miatas, but at 250 to 300 you are going to need to reinforce the drive line (LSD, clutch, etc). Also, you will want to good engine management (TECIII, Hydra, AEM).

Good luck to you.

Ike · 06-20-2006, 11:01 PM

Oh yeah, stay away from Racing Mazda. I've met Ric a couple of times. I think he means well, but because he's bad at business the end result is the same.

viciousclipse · 06-21-2006, 11:07 AM

Yea manifold and engine man. is my next issues, flipside customs has a nice manfold ive been looking at. Not sure what engine management to go with, i know the tec III is the best but not sure about the price, havent heard much on aems, id like to use piggyback system to start with then upgrade to a stand alone later.

06-21-2006, 11:36 AM

Curious why you guys are not considering the Link and Hydra ECUs that FM specs. There's a community of (free) online support so you don't have to invent the wheel yourself, unlike those newer brands.

gotxqss · 06-21-2006, 12:50 PM

your sorta describing my car here. flipside manifold/3076r ect ect..

heres some pics and stuff..

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewto...r=asc&start=30

viciousclipse · 06-21-2006, 01:20 PM

your setup is pretty close to what im looking for. Do you think running the gt30 on a piggyback with a low boost setting(around 10 psi) on say 550 injectors would be safe? I was a dsm guy where you hooked up an afc and turned up the boost, but doesnt look like miatas are that easy. The link kit is looking good except no launch control.

Matt [exz3owner] · 06-21-2006, 02:58 PM

miata isn't a boosted car from the factory. Thats an aweful big turbo and injector set up to run on a piggyback, but it could be done at lower hp and boost levels. Have you been in a boosted miata with a turbo that size? just curious as its kinda big for a 1.6

and i think most people aren't suggesting the FM ecu's for 2 different reasons. The link is limited for what modern ecu's can do because of its memory. The Hydra hasn't had 1st gen support until recently. As more people get exposed to it, I think that more people will adopt it...

like me. I like the Hydra a lot.

viciousclipse · 06-21-2006, 03:32 PM

actually ive never ridden in a boosted miata period. I just sold my eclipse and have 8 grand to spend on a miata as a drag car that will be driven on the street occasionally, not really what most miata are used for, but its the perfect car for the job, light, rwd, takes boost well, and is easily overlooked. I just want to get the car running with the gt30r and eventually upgrade to its potential.

Ike · 06-21-2006, 05:20 PM

There are actually a very few number of full ECUs that have good tech support for the Miata. Pretty much Link and Hydra are your choices. I've heard of folks using everything from the Haltech to AEM units on miatas. I even know a guy who has the Wolf EMS running (very well I might add). If you are looking for a an easy solution your choices are pretty limited. I haven't yet decided which way I'm going with my 92. The link is attractive because it can be had pretty inexpensively (used) and is plug and play. It's not the latest and greatest, but it's adequate ? just my opinion. If I had the money, I'd go with the TECIIIR. It's pretty much all you'll ever need.

06-21-2006, 07:54 PM

FYI, I've started a new thread for this subject. Please continue the discussion there:

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11172

leatherface24 · 07-17-2006, 08:22 AM

just do business with flyin miata. your car will be perfect. i speak from experience.

VtecMX5 · 07-17-2006, 09:39 AM

Racing Mazda Suck ass!!! I will never do business with them every again! Horrible business man... ric seemed like an ok guy, but he doesn't know what he's doing and his help is retarded! I bought a downpipe from him a few years back (when I was turbo'd) and they lost my order so many times, it took over 4 months to get. I had to call them every week and babysit the order!

Seriously, do business with flying miata.. they know their stuff and they have great tech support!

Fritch · 07-17-2006, 09:50 AM

if you're planning on throwing that much money at a miata, why keep the 1.6? Why not stroke a 1.8 to 2.0 and use a more moderatly sized turbo to meet your needs?

Splitime · 07-17-2006, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritch @ Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:50 am

if you're planning on throwing that much money at a miata, why keep the 1.6? Why not stroke a 1.8 to 2.0 and use a more moderatly sized turbo to meet your needs?

Because he can build his kit... spending 0 on his motor and have fun. If he decides to upgrade he can switch to a 1.8, change the manifold and be good to go.

Of course... its all about good decisions when it comes to piecing the kit together.

magnamx-5m · 07-30-2006, 11:13 PM

the 1.6 has a better personality and as long as it isn't a shortnosed crank then it is tough as any 1.8. the only difference i have seen is in torque delivery from the varius dyno charts.

johnT · 03-18-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viciousclipse @ Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:08 pm

anybody running a xkit by racing mazda?

I bought the main parts from Racingmazda´s X-kit:
- T3T04E Turbo
- Intercooler
- Piping
- Tial externa wastegate
- Tec3 Programable Ecu

The car is currently running 260 RWHP with no big issues. :wink: I had some piping problems due to the shape of my custom exhaust manifold though.

I had to rework on the Turbo-Intercooler piping and problem was solved.
You can check more details on:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/139157/2

turbopezz · 03-19-2007, 12:18 AM

i sold my gst for a miata too.i boosted my car asap.
alike it alot better than my gst.check out miataturbo.net .also what quarter mile times are you looking for.
oh yea i have a big nose 1.6.it revs so nice compared to the 4g63.

ExHondaMan · 03-19-2007, 12:46 AM

I never heard of an X-Kit, anymore info about it?

ExHondaMan · 03-19-2007, 12:50 AM

Nevermind, found info. I thought it was OEM stuff.

06-15-2006, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	mazda racing xkit anybody running a xkit by racing mazda?

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06-19-2006, 12:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit just havent heard much about them, want to get one for a 1.6, any complaints, what kind of power are you gettin. Im looking for 250 to 300 on a stock block. I was also thinking about a custom setup with a gt30r. Any ideas?

06-19-2006, 12:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit just havent heard much about them, want to get one for a 1.6, any complaints, what kind of power are you gettin. Im looking for 250 to 300 on a stock block. I was also thinking about a custom setup with a gt30r. Any ideas?

06-19-2006, 01:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
MiataRoadster Guest Posts: n/a	Re: mazda racing xkit See m.net for many horror stories about Racing Mazda. Buyer beware! Here's just the latest: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=182736
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06-20-2006, 09:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit yea dont really want to get involved in something like that. What kind of setups are people running for drag/street? Anyone running a gt30r?

06-20-2006, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
JDMAflac CR.net Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: charlotte, NC Posts: 2,922	I guess im crossing off mazda racing 2.5 downpipe off my list. Not supporting them at all.
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06-20-2006, 10:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ike Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64	Re: mazda racing xkit You should check out BEGI. I should say that they are finishing up my 1.6L T28 based kit right now. (pics here --> http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages...systems16.html) Corky would me more than happy to discuss options with you. Although there stock kit will be primarily for T25 and T28 turbos, they can drill the mani for T3 very easily. I don't know your experience with high HP miatas, but at 250 to 300 you are going to need to reinforce the drive line (LSD, clutch, etc). Also, you will want to good engine management (TECIII, Hydra, AEM). Good luck to you.
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06-20-2006, 11:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ike Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64	Re: mazda racing xkit Oh yeah, stay away from Racing Mazda. I've met Ric a couple of times. I think he means well, but because he's bad at business the end result is the same.
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06-21-2006, 11:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit Yea manifold and engine man. is my next issues, flipside customs has a nice manfold ive been looking at. Not sure what engine management to go with, i know the tec III is the best but not sure about the price, havent heard much on aems, id like to use piggyback system to start with then upgrade to a stand alone later.

06-21-2006, 11:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
MiataRoadster Guest Posts: n/a	Re: mazda racing xkit Curious why you guys are not considering the Link and Hydra ECUs that FM specs. There's a community of (free) online support so you don't have to invent the wheel yourself, unlike those newer brands.
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06-21-2006, 12:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
gotxqss Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 447	Re: mazda racing xkit your sorta describing my car here. flipside manifold/3076r ect ect.. heres some pics and stuff.. http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewto...r=asc&start=30

06-21-2006, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit your setup is pretty close to what im looking for. Do you think running the gt30 on a piggyback with a low boost setting(around 10 psi) on say 550 injectors would be safe? I was a dsm guy where you hooked up an afc and turned up the boost, but doesnt look like miatas are that easy. The link kit is looking good except no launch control.

06-21-2006, 02:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Matt [exz3owner] Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,028	miata isn't a boosted car from the factory. Thats an aweful big turbo and injector set up to run on a piggyback, but it could be done at lower hp and boost levels. Have you been in a boosted miata with a turbo that size? just curious as its kinda big for a 1.6 and i think most people aren't suggesting the FM ecu's for 2 different reasons. The link is limited for what modern ecu's can do because of its memory. The Hydra hasn't had 1st gen support until recently. As more people get exposed to it, I think that more people will adopt it... like me. I like the Hydra a lot.
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06-21-2006, 03:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
viciousclipse Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: king george, va Posts: 182	Re: mazda racing xkit actually ive never ridden in a boosted miata period. I just sold my eclipse and have 8 grand to spend on a miata as a drag car that will be driven on the street occasionally, not really what most miata are used for, but its the perfect car for the job, light, rwd, takes boost well, and is easily overlooked. I just want to get the car running with the gt30r and eventually upgrade to its potential.

06-21-2006, 05:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ike Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64	There are actually a very few number of full ECUs that have good tech support for the Miata. Pretty much Link and Hydra are your choices. I've heard of folks using everything from the Haltech to AEM units on miatas. I even know a guy who has the Wolf EMS running (very well I might add). If you are looking for a an easy solution your choices are pretty limited. I haven't yet decided which way I'm going with my 92. The link is attractive because it can be had pretty inexpensively (used) and is plug and play. It's not the latest and greatest, but it's adequate ? just my opinion. If I had the money, I'd go with the TECIIIR. It's pretty much all you'll ever need.
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06-21-2006, 07:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
MiataRoadster Guest Posts: n/a	ECU options FYI, I've started a new thread for this subject. Please continue the discussion there: http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11172
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07-17-2006, 09:39 AM	#20 (permalink)
VtecMX5 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 343	Racing Mazda Suck ass!!! I will never do business with them every again! Horrible business man... ric seemed like an ok guy, but he doesn't know what he's doing and his help is retarded! I bought a downpipe from him a few years back (when I was turbo'd) and they lost my order so many times, it took over 4 months to get. I had to call them every week and babysit the order! Seriously, do business with flying miata.. they know their stuff and they have great tech support!
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Fritch Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Holiday, FL Posts: 339	if you're planning on throwing that much money at a miata, why keep the 1.6? Why not stroke a 1.8 to 2.0 and use a more moderatly sized turbo to meet your needs?
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07-30-2006, 11:13 PM	#23 (permalink)
magnamx-5m Noob Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 27	the 1.6 has a better personality and as long as it isn't a shortnosed crank then it is tough as any 1.8. the only difference i have seen is in torque delivery from the varius dyno charts.
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turbopezz Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 104	i sold my gst for a miata too.i boosted my car asap. alike it alot better than my gst.check out miataturbo.net .also what quarter mile times are you looking for. oh yea i have a big nose 1.6.it revs so nice compared to the 4g63.
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