Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! - Page 20

PatBroChill · 02-16-2012, 04:49 PM

should look really good when finished. And your buddys bay is DOPE.

Mr. MattMan · 02-17-2012, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatBroChill

should look really good when finished. And your buddys bay is DOPE.

I hope so! Thanks!

Venice · 03-03-2012, 04:17 AM

Has anyone had problems after tucking there brake lines not getting fluid to the rears . I've been having a hell of a time getting pressure to close the calipers after doing this . I must of put about a half gallon of fluid through but i still have no brakes .

At 1st i thought it was my prop valve because the rears were the only ones not getting fluid ,so i replaced that and fluid came out fine (still not brakes ) . So last night i replaced the master with a re-manned OE unit . Bench bleed it a couple times till not more air bubbles then installed it in the car . Started to bleed the brakes and nothing . I left the bleeder valves off last night in hopes of it gravity bleeding it self . When i went out this morning (about 8hrs later) nothing master is still full .

I'm starting to wonder is it because of how i placed my brake lines in the cowl causing this problem .

Another note;
Car had ABS originally and was removed all brake lines replaced in engine bay

Mr. MattMan · 03-03-2012, 03:14 PM

pix would help.

Venice · 03-04-2012, 12:33 PM

I'll post some pics up in a few also i don't know if it matters but i laid the prop valve down .I can't see that being the problem because when i had it in the OE location it still didn't work .

I've gone though all the lines to see if i had any that were crimped or leaking and everything looks fine . I've left the driver side rear open since last night just hoping it starts to flow .

Mr. MattMan · 03-07-2012, 02:21 PM

Maybe your master cylinder is dead. Try replacing it?

Venice · 03-07-2012, 02:35 PM

Master is a OE new one and the prop valve is also been changed ,

mighty mouse · 03-07-2012, 04:47 PM

Did you mess with the internals of the prop valve?

Venice · 03-07-2012, 06:22 PM

Not the one that is installed . I pulled the one i had from my blue car and when that didn't work i took it apart to see if something was stuck but even after putting that one back together with out the spring and plunger/piston i still had the same problem " No Pressure" .

The only thing i can think of is since i ran the lines above the master that some how pressure is lost. Not sure if that is even possible with this type of system . Today after work i decided to wedge the brake down and remove the bleeder valve . This didn't change anything except make me walk around the car more then i really wanted to .
I'm just running out of ideas my next step would be to re-route the lines down and behind the engine or even behind the dash which means i'll be doing more work. But i will be ordering the Motiv Bleeder that pushes the fluid through to the calipers .

amptramp · 03-08-2012, 08:47 AM

Are you sure when you ran the new lines that you didn't crimp one of the lines or end up with a crack in one? Fluid could be pooling somewhere where you can't see it.

Venice · 03-08-2012, 10:08 AM

100% sure no cracks reason I replaced the stainless lines with coated steel was because of cracks.no leaks

mighty mouse · 03-08-2012, 12:33 PM

If nothing is coming out, and your master cyl/prop valve are functioning properly, then you either have a blockage in the line, a cink, or a crack and fluid is leaking out.

Running the lines higher than the master won't matter as it's a closed system.

Venice · 03-08-2012, 12:44 PM

I didn't think the height of the line would make a difference .so far I haven't noticed any puddles that's not saying air might not be getting in at one of the fittings and yes I've made sure they are all tight but not over tight . I mean I have the same fittings run to the passenger wheel and I'm good there. Not 100% sure they are grabbing fully but there is some tention there. Driver side is good (factory lines and fittings) .the new vacuum pump hopefully solves this problem or shows something. That is wrong

ZooAtlanta · 03-09-2012, 07:30 PM

I Might be talking out of my ass but has any one thats OBDII tried to move the emissions shit to the wiper tray. that way you could still have it but its tucked out of the way.

Venice · 03-10-2012, 04:42 AM

What emissions stuff are you talking about . The black canister can be deleted most people do that . Unless there is something else under there on obdII cars that i can't think about right now .

I'm thinking about re-running my lines to remove some of the bends curves but keeping them low in the engine bay but at the same time i just want to pull the dash/engine/carpet everything and just shave , paint an all around clean up the bay . But i'm slowly getting discouraged about this whole thing .

ZooAtlanta · 03-10-2012, 04:29 PM

Im talking about the relays associated with the carbon canister. like move the carbon canister and the relays to the wiper tray. I dont know if its feasible but its worth a shot if you want a tucked bay and get a CEL

Venice · 03-10-2012, 08:12 PM

I guess you could that is just a lot of work just delete it .

For those who asked about my brake lines .

New valve cover color

RedTurboMiata · 03-10-2012, 08:20 PM

just a thought did you adjust the adjustment screw on the back of the calipers?

Venice · 03-10-2012, 08:31 PM

Hell yeah i did i have tried everything i could of . This seems like the 1st time this has come up and i've asked other people and on other forums . There might still be air trapped in the line i'm just going to pull the dash and run the lines again . Perhaps next week order the booster delete and prop valve from wilwood .

Venice · 03-12-2012, 06:58 PM

I think i fixed my brakes bleeder valve in the rear was too long and it seemed to have cracked or some crap .

But on another note .

Thanks to Ken for the extra stickers that came in handy tonight .

phillyb™ · 03-12-2012, 07:00 PM

nice!

knightimer · 03-13-2012, 01:34 AM

love the look. a lot of work tucking though

amptramp · 03-13-2012, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venice

For those who asked about my brake lines .

New valve cover color

If you are using that bottle just in front of the rad as your brake fluid, I think I know what the problem is...

Venice · 03-13-2012, 08:46 AM

I use that bottle as a helping hand sometimes plus it makes ugly things look good. Just look at my plug wires they are in the bay cause of that problem.

Mr. MattMan · 03-13-2012, 09:01 AM

My bay is in primer! Im having my paint buddy come and do the body work and paint it tomorrow so excited!!!

Venice · 03-13-2012, 07:33 PM

Matt let me know how the manual brakes feel when your done . I think next winter I'm going to shave most of the bay and do the manual brakes .

Mr. MattMan · 03-13-2012, 07:59 PM

Just unplug ur booster vaccum line and cap it. Then drive around

lamaster891 · 03-16-2012, 04:20 AM

i have been watching this thread for a while and started my tuck this week. here is the progress

lawmaster891 · 03-19-2012, 01:49 AM

All done for now. This was my spring break lol. hopefullly tucking the driver side on my next break from school. Though sometime soon i will be repainting my valve cover

Mr. MattMan · 03-19-2012, 03:16 PM

body work done finish coat goes on soon

I also have been cleaning up my engine to go in my newly shaved bay..

This should cover it nicely

02-16-2012, 04:49 PM	#571 (permalink)
PatBroChill Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wolcott, CT Posts: 521	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! should look really good when finished. And your buddys bay is DOPE.

03-03-2012, 04:17 AM	#573 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Has anyone had problems after tucking there brake lines not getting fluid to the rears . I've been having a hell of a time getting pressure to close the calipers after doing this . I must of put about a half gallon of fluid through but i still have no brakes . At 1st i thought it was my prop valve because the rears were the only ones not getting fluid ,so i replaced that and fluid came out fine (still not brakes ) . So last night i replaced the master with a re-manned OE unit . Bench bleed it a couple times till not more air bubbles then installed it in the car . Started to bleed the brakes and nothing . I left the bleeder valves off last night in hopes of it gravity bleeding it self . When i went out this morning (about 8hrs later) nothing master is still full . I'm starting to wonder is it because of how i placed my brake lines in the cowl causing this problem . Another note; Car had ABS originally and was removed all brake lines replaced in engine bay
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03-03-2012, 03:14 PM	#574 (permalink)
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03-04-2012, 12:33 PM	#575 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I'll post some pics up in a few also i don't know if it matters but i laid the prop valve down .I can't see that being the problem because when i had it in the OE location it still didn't work . I've gone though all the lines to see if i had any that were crimped or leaking and everything looks fine . I've left the driver side rear open since last night just hoping it starts to flow .
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03-07-2012, 02:21 PM	#576 (permalink)
Mr. MattMan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Side Orlando Fl Posts: 486	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Maybe your master cylinder is dead. Try replacing it?
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03-07-2012, 02:35 PM	#577 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Master is a OE new one and the prop valve is also been changed ,
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03-07-2012, 04:47 PM	#578 (permalink)
mighty mouse Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NH Posts: 1,648	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Did you mess with the internals of the prop valve?
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03-07-2012, 06:22 PM	#579 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Not the one that is installed . I pulled the one i had from my blue car and when that didn't work i took it apart to see if something was stuck but even after putting that one back together with out the spring and plunger/piston i still had the same problem " No Pressure" . The only thing i can think of is since i ran the lines above the master that some how pressure is lost. Not sure if that is even possible with this type of system . Today after work i decided to wedge the brake down and remove the bleeder valve . This didn't change anything except make me walk around the car more then i really wanted to . I'm just running out of ideas my next step would be to re-route the lines down and behind the engine or even behind the dash which means i'll be doing more work. But i will be ordering the Motiv Bleeder that pushes the fluid through to the calipers .
	__________________ Project Now it has a name .

03-08-2012, 08:47 AM	#580 (permalink)
amptramp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 298	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Are you sure when you ran the new lines that you didn't crimp one of the lines or end up with a crack in one? Fluid could be pooling somewhere where you can't see it.
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03-08-2012, 10:08 AM	#581 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! 100% sure no cracks reason I replaced the stainless lines with coated steel was because of cracks.no leaks
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03-08-2012, 12:33 PM	#582 (permalink)
mighty mouse Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NH Posts: 1,648	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! If nothing is coming out, and your master cyl/prop valve are functioning properly, then you either have a blockage in the line, a cink, or a crack and fluid is leaking out. Running the lines higher than the master won't matter as it's a closed system.
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03-08-2012, 12:44 PM	#583 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I didn't think the height of the line would make a difference .so far I haven't noticed any puddles that's not saying air might not be getting in at one of the fittings and yes I've made sure they are all tight but not over tight . I mean I have the same fittings run to the passenger wheel and I'm good there. Not 100% sure they are grabbing fully but there is some tention there. Driver side is good (factory lines and fittings) .the new vacuum pump hopefully solves this problem or shows something. That is wrong
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03-09-2012, 07:30 PM	#584 (permalink)
ZooAtlanta Noob Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: South Jersey (unfortunately) Posts: 43	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I Might be talking out of my ass but has any one thats OBDII tried to move the emissions shit to the wiper tray. that way you could still have it but its tucked out of the way.
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03-10-2012, 04:42 AM	#585 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! What emissions stuff are you talking about . The black canister can be deleted most people do that . Unless there is something else under there on obdII cars that i can't think about right now . I'm thinking about re-running my lines to remove some of the bends curves but keeping them low in the engine bay but at the same time i just want to pull the dash/engine/carpet everything and just shave , paint an all around clean up the bay . But i'm slowly getting discouraged about this whole thing .
	__________________ Project Now it has a name .

03-10-2012, 04:29 PM	#586 (permalink)
ZooAtlanta Noob Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: South Jersey (unfortunately) Posts: 43	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Im talking about the relays associated with the carbon canister. like move the carbon canister and the relays to the wiper tray. I dont know if its feasible but its worth a shot if you want a tucked bay and get a CEL
	__________________ Jet life

03-10-2012, 08:12 PM	#587 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I guess you could that is just a lot of work just delete it . For those who asked about my brake lines . New valve cover color
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03-10-2012, 08:20 PM	#588 (permalink)
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03-10-2012, 08:31 PM	#589 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Hell yeah i did i have tried everything i could of . This seems like the 1st time this has come up and i've asked other people and on other forums . There might still be air trapped in the line i'm just going to pull the dash and run the lines again . Perhaps next week order the booster delete and prop valve from wilwood .
	__________________ Project Now it has a name .

03-12-2012, 06:58 PM	#590 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I think i fixed my brakes bleeder valve in the rear was too long and it seemed to have cracked or some crap . But on another note . Thanks to Ken for the extra stickers that came in handy tonight .
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03-12-2012, 07:00 PM	#591 (permalink)
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03-13-2012, 01:34 AM	#592 (permalink)
knightimer Noob Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 48	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! love the look. a lot of work tucking though
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03-13-2012, 08:46 AM	#594 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! I use that bottle as a helping hand sometimes plus it makes ugly things look good. Just look at my plug wires they are in the bay cause of that problem.
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03-13-2012, 09:01 AM	#595 (permalink)
Mr. MattMan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Side Orlando Fl Posts: 486	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! My bay is in primer! Im having my paint buddy come and do the body work and paint it tomorrow so excited!!!
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03-13-2012, 07:33 PM	#596 (permalink)
Venice Cr.net is addicting Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NoVa Posts: 1,999	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Matt let me know how the manual brakes feel when your done . I think next winter I'm going to shave most of the bay and do the manual brakes .
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03-13-2012, 07:59 PM	#597 (permalink)
Mr. MattMan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Side Orlando Fl Posts: 486	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! Just unplug ur booster vaccum line and cap it. Then drive around
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03-16-2012, 04:20 AM	#598 (permalink)
lamaster891 Noob Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! i have been watching this thread for a while and started my tuck this week. here is the progress

03-19-2012, 01:49 AM	#599 (permalink)
lawmaster891 Noob Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 10	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! All done for now. This was my spring break lol. hopefullly tucking the driver side on my next break from school. Though sometime soon i will be repainting my valve cover

03-19-2012, 03:16 PM	#600 (permalink)
Mr. MattMan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East Side Orlando Fl Posts: 486	Re: Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! body work done finish coat goes on soon I also have been cleaning up my engine to go in my newly shaved bay.. This should cover it nicely
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