Full-detailed tuck/delete write-ups for NA's! - Page 23

nperkins · 04-03-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. MattMan

sooo much room in the bay now..

I know I asked in your build thread, but I figured i'd be rude and ask here too... Any more pics of your coolant reroute? Curious about the back of the head and if its possible to do with the motor in the car...

Boostedmx5 · 04-03-2012, 11:41 AM

Everywhere I have read about reroutes, they had to pull the motor.

Mr. MattMan · 04-03-2012, 01:24 PM

nope... i made a front block off.. (or u can use a 30mm freeze plug) and used the front housing in back... put thermostat directly in head and ran coolant hose from it. I got a buddy club sensor block, and drilled and tapped for the water temp guage and then wired fan to ignition..

Boostedmx5 · 04-03-2012, 01:34 PM

You wired your fan to the ignition? So now its going to run at all times Key On Engine ON?

Mr. MattMan · 04-03-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostedmx5

You wired your fan to the ignition? So now its going to run at all times Key On Engine ON?

Yep

Boostedmx5 · 04-03-2012, 01:41 PM

Won't that greatly decrease life of the fan?

Mr. MattMan · 04-03-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostedmx5

Won't that greatly decrease life of the fan?

Im not wories about a 30$ slim fan

Boostedmx5 · 04-03-2012, 01:44 PM

Won't this cause your engine to maybe run too cold?

nperkins · 04-03-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. MattMan

nope... i made a front block off.. (or u can use a 30mm freeze plug) and used the front housing in back... put thermostat directly in head and ran coolant hose from it. I got a buddy club sensor block, and drilled and tapped for the water temp guage and then wired fan to ignition..

Wait so that's it? No spacer needed? No modifications to the neck to be able to bolt it? Just:

- Remove Water Neck from Front
- Install Block off Plate on Front of motor
- Remove Block off Plate from Back of Motor
- Install Thermostat into back of motor
- Install Water Neck from front
- Run coolant hose / water pipe from back of motor to radiator
- Install Buddy Club Sensor block somewhere in the middle

I'm guessing the only catch is you eliminated your heater core?

bedheadben · 04-03-2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostedmx5

Won't that greatly decrease life of the fan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. MattMan

Im not wories about a 30$ slim fan

Exactly, mine is wired to ignition too and it's fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostedmx5

Won't this cause your engine to maybe run too cold?

That's what your thermostat's for. I live in Washington and my fan is always on and even on the coldest nights in winter it still runs great.

Mr. MattMan · 04-03-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nperkins

Wait so that's it? No spacer needed? No modifications to the neck to be able to bolt it? Just:

- Remove Water Neck from Front
- Install Block off Plate on Front of motor
- Remove Block off Plate from Back of Motor
- Install Thermostat into back of motor
- Install Water Neck from front
- Run coolant hose / water pipe from back of motor to radiator
- Install Buddy Club Sensor block somewhere in the middle

I'm guessing the only catch is you eliminated your heater core?

yep no heat.

Boostedmx5 · 04-04-2012, 08:29 AM

I ripped all my heater core shit out the other day. Looped the lines.

Mr. MattMan · 04-05-2012, 01:26 PM

bedheadben · 04-05-2012, 02:11 PM

So clean, I love all the smoothing you did, that's my favorite part. How is that typically done? Body filler?

Mr. MattMan · 04-05-2012, 02:12 PM

fiber glass and rage/bondo

IH8 · 04-07-2012, 10:08 PM

looks amazing.

could look better with ITB's, bike carbs or dual carbs but it'spretty much the best roadster bay i have seen!

amptramp · 04-07-2012, 11:05 PM

There is a way to retain the heater when doing a coolant reroute: swap the water elbows from front to rear and the elbow with the small outlet will be on the front. Attach a heater hose to that and you have basically swapped the rear and the front of the engine. It isn't optimum, but it is better than the original setup.

spitefulcheerio · 04-07-2012, 11:12 PM

Hey Matt, have you had any issue with electrical sensors/electric parts in general? I've heard that lengthening all those sensor wires can cause them to read improperly because of voltage drop off or something like that

Venice · 04-11-2012, 04:24 AM

My bay as of now still need to finish up a couple things . None of the sensor wires have been extended .

phillyb™ · 04-11-2012, 09:06 AM

very nice!

mighty mouse · 04-11-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio

Hey Matt, have you had any issue with electrical sensors/electric parts in general? I've heard that lengthening all those sensor wires can cause them to read improperly because of voltage drop off or something like that

I extended pretty much every wire, and I don't have any issues- you'll be fine.

Mr. MattMan · 04-11-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio

Hey Matt, have you had any issue with electrical sensors/electric parts in general? I've heard that lengthening all those sensor wires can cause them to read improperly because of voltage drop off or something like that

only wires i extended were for VAF.. but everything is good

spitefulcheerio · 04-11-2012, 11:38 AM

Thanks for the info!

perzbenz · 04-11-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. MattMan

fiber glass and rage/bondo

Didn't weld and grind? Aren't you going to run into a lot of cracking later?

Mr. MattMan · 04-13-2012, 09:06 AM

i did weld all the holes shut. then i used the glass to round myfender wells

DangerKart · 04-13-2012, 05:08 PM

Here is what I got going so far, Just deleted what I could and didn't touch the driveside yet.

So what is the easiest way to relocate my fuse box?
Does everybody put it under the dash?

Also can I just loop the 2 tubes together for this resivior and call it a day?

Any help with ODB-ll would be great!!

adamvanxxx · 04-13-2012, 08:03 PM

Loop the lines on the rack after draining the rack after a few lock to lock turns.

Depin the fuse box and put it inside.

bedheadben · 04-13-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by adamvanxxx

Loop the lines on the rack after draining the rack after a few lock to lock turns.

Worst advice on depowering a steering rack ever haha. Depower it the right way, that way you don't need to be superman to turn the wheel.

adamvanxxx · 04-13-2012, 08:25 PM

LOL not.

If there is no fluid in the rack the the seals aren't pressurizing anything. Either I am super strong and wrong or I'm not.

Edit: If you leave the rack full or just take off the belt then yes it is hard as dick.

Boostedmx5 · 04-13-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedheadben

Worst advice on depowering a steering rack ever haha. Depower it the right way, that way you don't need to be superman to turn the wheel.

Either I'm superman or you are a pussy.

04-03-2012, 11:41 AM	#662 (permalink)
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