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Old 10-03-2011, 10:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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btw, I didn't notice this in the pictures, but you can run your three point factory belt, through the shoulder harness slot and through the lap belt slot, and it will work properly. Just a suggestion, as I see a lot of daily track cars running this way. I think it helps keep less slack when its on you, that way if a collision happens you don't accelerate into the belt and get in a lot of pain.
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Hell...throw a larger rotor on there and you've got an instant big brake kit in the rear. Just match it on the front
You know, I actually thought of that after I installed the Protege bracket & caliper. I might have to pick up those abandoned rear Protege rotors I left at PnP to see if they fit. I need to check to see if a '94 Protege has a 4x100 bolt pattern, I can't remember offhand.


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btw, I didn't notice this in the pictures, but you can run your three point factory belt, through the shoulder harness slot and through the lap belt slot, and it will work properly. Just a suggestion, as I see a lot of daily track cars running this way. I think it helps keep less slack when its on you, that way if a collision happens you don't accelerate into the belt and get in a lot of pain.
I don't have a lap belt slot on these seats (Gias reps), but running it through the shoulder belt is a great idea. I'm going to try that when I get a chance to work on the car next time. Thanks for the tip!



Well, after the Cowboys debacle on Sunday I got frustrated with life & decided to finish up the trunk. I went ahead and cut up some spacers out of 2"x2" & 1"x1" wood pieces (the 1"x1" are covered in black speaker carpet). I always thought things look better under glass.



It's like I'm straight outta' a car stereo shop in '88 now. I am thinking about cutting the edges of the plexiglass to match up better with the curves of the sunken area, ya' know, so it doesn't look so boxed out. I wasn't sure if I could cut it with the jigsaw I am using, so I didn't take the chance. I'm hoping someone can chime in... I'm not too happy with the look of the black-carpeted spacers, I'm not too sure what to do. I need the extra space to clear the amps & to provide some ventilation. Should I re-cover them in the matching plaid fabric?
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I haven't updated the build thread in a while, and it's for good reason - there hasn't been much to update. I've been extremely busy with "life" & I haven't had much time to devote to the car.

I have been able to drive it a bit more since it's been amazing weather out here. Here's a pic from a "meet" in San Antonio where I met up with Banzai & Shadow_Mx5... It was earlier on, the parking lot was pretty full when I left about an hour or 2 after this pic was taken. Sorry about the crap phone pic...



I haven't really progressed too far on the whole tail-light thing. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll have some time to work on them & have something to show. I'm having to slow down progression. I was originally planning on getting the car into a paint booth in Jan/Feb, but now it's looking like it'll be sometime in late-summer - if that [edit: never]. But when it goes in, it looks like a R-Type lip will be added, CR has spoken & I was leaning that way anyway...

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Hope you guy's had a great New Year!

Well, I've gotten a lil time to work on the car during the holidays & have progressed work on these:


I removed the plastic cover with a heat gun and a screwdriver. Then I spent hours with Goo Gone, a flathead screwdriver, and a few jack & cokes. After cleaning out all the adhesive gunk I could I started taping everything off.


I then proceeded to apply body filler. I am suck at this, but steadily improving...


I sanded off the excess filler, and attempted to smoothen everything out. I sprayed a couple of coats of primer...


It's kinda where I'm at today. I need to fill in the little imperfections, sand it smooth, and respray the light. I haven't touched the other light yet, this is taking a lot longer than expected, but I'm learning as I go - that's where the fun is, right? Hopefully today I'll get one light finished - that's the plan... I'll update this with a pic if I can get it done.

Anyway guys I kinda want your opinions/tips/suggestions. I'm kinda still on the fence with these tails, if anything it's a challenge for me & a learning experience. I feel like I've gotten much better at working with body filler since doing the headlights (the first time I've ever touched the stuff). The ultimate goal is to get at least the rear end of the car (trunk, taillights, finish panel, bumper) straight & primer'ed out by the end of the month...
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:27 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Been working on the tails..

It took a lot of this:



checking out what it'd look like...




aannddd.....


Done!




All together to check for paint variances..




I kinda rushed the other taillight & had some drips on the clear coat. I tried to "fix" them, but I think I made it worse. Oh well, it's all relatively temporary... I'm still not 100% sure if I'm gonna like it. I'm saving final judgement for when it's all on the car.

I also painted the rear finish panel I bought a while back. I ran out of clear coat, so it still needs 1 more coat to get the same gloss as the tails. Next week I'll start on the rear bumper - trim off a 'lil on the bottom, fill in a phantom 1" hole, sand and primer; & also fill in holes in the trunk lid from PO's aluminum wing, sand & primer.

New goal - by mid February get the entire car primer'd out. Progress pics coming...
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Love the lights. Any thought to mold them to the finish panel?
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Love the lights. Any thought to mold them to the finish panel?
Thanks man!

When I took that pic where all three were together, I seriously thought about molding them to the finish panel. I'm thinking about the best way to go about doing it - should I bolt them all to the car, then start bondo'ing? Should I use fiberglass, would that be stronger? For right now, I think I'm going to leave them separated to see if I really like how the tails blend with the rest of the car. If I am diggin' it, molding them in will more than likely happen at some time. If not, I'll grab a stock driver's side tail (the current one is cracked) & keep it stock-looking until I come across a GV rear that I can afford.




Question/opinion needed - Should I "fill in" the reverse light on these tails & install a separate reverse light elsewhere on the rear, like under the bumper or something? Looking at the pics of the tails, the main reason I'm not 100% on the modified tails is that I feel like the reverse light is making it look cluttered. I feel like it'd look better without them. Whaddya' think?
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Question/opinion needed - Should I "fill in" the reverse light on these tails & install a separate reverse light elsewhere on the rear, like under the bumper or something? Looking at the pics of the tails, the main reason I'm not 100% on the modified tails is that I feel like the reverse light is making it look cluttered. I feel like it'd look better without them. Whaddya' think?
Follow your instinct. I agree that it would look 100% better if you simplify the tail light design by removing the reverse lights. I also don't like how the bezel has a gap in it where the reverse circle and the tail light circle touch. It would solve that issue, too.

Maybe do something like the Zoom Engineering reverse light with a center exit exhaust setup. Like here: zoom engineering backup or rear fog lamp?
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IMO if you knock out the reverse you have to mold them together. No point in going "cleaner" with that big ol seam there. Fiberglass or filler could do the job. I'd use rage over bondo though, bondo is too brittle when dry. Mounting them on the car, then molding it would net the best results. That way you can smooth them out And block them down perfectly.
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I agree that molding the lights and panel together would be a clean look. Another idea on the reverse lights would be to remove one and keep one. Remove and fill in the passenger side and just have one reverse light on the drivers side. Or for a euro look, find a red rear fog lamp that fits the passenger side and put that where the reverse light is.
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Follow your instinct. I agree that it would look 100% better if you simplify the tail light design by removing the reverse lights. I also don't like how the bezel has a gap in it where the reverse circle and the tail light circle touch. It would solve that issue, too.

Maybe do something like the Zoom Engineering reverse light with a center exit exhaust setup. Like here: zoom engineering backup or rear fog lamp?
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IMO if you knock out the reverse you have to mold them together. No point in going "cleaner" with that big ol seam there. Fiberglass or filler could do the job. I'd use rage over bondo though, bondo is too brittle when dry. Mounting them on the car, then molding it would net the best results. That way you can smooth them out And block them down perfectly.
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I agree that molding the lights and panel together would be a clean look. Another idea on the reverse lights would be to remove one and keep one. Remove and fill in the passenger side and just have one reverse light on the drivers side. Or for a euro look, find a red rear fog lamp that fits the passenger side and put that where the reverse light is.


Man, you guys are nailing it. The more I look at it, the more the reverse light is bothering me. I have a feeling that the Zoom reverse light mounted in the stock exhaust location & a C-5 muffler (copying Mr Woolery's center exhaust) are going to be in the cards along with molding the finish panel to the tails. I've put this much effort into this, I hate to short-change myself on something that I know could look much cleaner.

1vicissitude - what's "rage"? Sorry, I'm learning as I go. I've never worked with fiberglass, but I think it might be time I learned. I'm scared of possible cracks after i mold them together - I can see how bondo/filler would increase that risk.

mk2tmr2 - Good looking out for the Zoom reverse light - that's exactly where I was going with the "reverse light under the bumper". I couldn't remember who made it.

stoly - The "euro-look" would be kinda a cool idea, but I dunno if it'd still be too prominent. I might do that in the meantime though, until I get my center exhaust set up & the Zoom reverse light.

Thanks for the input guys, seriously - I needed that feedback.
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Rage is a brand of body filler and putty. Rage extreme has some flex to it, Rage gold is like bondo but better. Both sand better, are stronger, and less brittle. They're poly based. Bondo sucks, specially for molding two pieces together.
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Had another idea in looking at various tail lamp options this weekend. If you could find some amber blinkers that fit it would help break up the reds. From left to right; amber, red brake, clear reverse light, red rear fog lamp, red brake, amber.
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Looking good J.

+1 on the molding, and since bulbs are changed on the inside of trunk guess it shouldn't matter what you cover up.

Personally I think the reverse lights are in a good spot, just wish they weren't so close to the brake light. Almost as if the reverse light was a smaller diameter and where its edges didn't touch the brake lights.

I think there are some good suggestions here.

I would just look at the car as a whole and try and see what would look best for your direction of the car. Just like me I like a few different styles but sometimes it doesn't always work well to mix up so many.

But looking forward to the project as it evolves.
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Really really good suggestions guys, I really appreciate it - a LOT...


I'm taking a lunch break right now, & also waiting for my Dremel tool to recharge (one of these days I gotta get a corded Dremel). I went ahead and cut my bumper, and I fit a spot for the reverse light that I picked up from Harbor Freight (for a mere $12!).

I'd like to trim up the rear bumper support, but I've got to deal with rusted bolts like these:


I can't stress enough how much I don't want to deal with this at the moment, it's like a whole can of worms that I'd rather not open right now. I know it's not a "choice" look, but for the moment I'm gonna leave it be. I'll clean it up later...


I didn't want to begin molding in the reverse lights on the modified altezza's until I found a decent location to mount the new reverse light, for obvious reasons. I located a bolt that I could use that places the light about where I wanted it - opposite the exhaust pipe. I thought about installing it in the tailpipe location & running a center exit exhaust, but i decided to keep the exhaust in the stock location. Sometime in the future I'm planning on installing a trailer receiver to lug around track wheels/tires & a toolbox...

Anyway, here's a pic of where I mounted the bracket for the reverse light.




Before I came back in, I did a "mockup" of how it all should look. I duct taped the areas together where the pieces are to be filled in.





I need to figure out how to wire up the reverse light - there's a red wire coming out of the Harbor Freight light. I haven't looked at the Mazda wires, but I'm assuming it can't be difficult...

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i dont think all that fender rolling and pulling was needed
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i dont think all that fender rolling and pulling was needed
You're probably right. I wanted to be able to clear a much meatier tire (for future track days), and I liked the "flattened flared" look on the rears (I dunno if that's a term - flattened flare, I like it). It was also my first time using a fender roller & I got "in a zone" while rolling them. In hindsight, I may not have rolled them as extreme as I did, but I'm happy with how it looks now.
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Been workin' on the ass end some more, progress pics...


I fixed all the little bumps and bruises on the bumper & layed down a layer of primer...




I filled in the reverse lights, this is before I sanded them down...



While I was sanding the passenger side down, I noticed a small gap between the red reflector & the taillight (the area not taped up). I haven't done it yet, but am thinking about carefully sealing it up with caulk & sanding it smooth. Good idea or should I do something else?



Here's a few pics of the taillights sanded down & everything mocked up again...






I've already started wiring up the new reverse light, I'm about halfway through, should have the wire done over this weekend. Gotta spend time with the g/f & her parents so I probably won't get to finishing up the rear end until Monday or so... The goal is to get the tails & finish panel molded together, painted, and installed before next weekend...
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You're the second guy to modify these altezza lights recently, the first being that John guy with the foam. I can see the market for altezzas going up soon (with me included lol). Props man, they're looking really good.
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Wow those tail lights are hawt!! Great job!
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Looking good! Can't wait to see the finished product!
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Thanks for the kind words guys! It keeps me pushing along... Phantomxrider, you don't happen to have the link to the other guys' Altezza mod? Just wondering if I've done it first...


So back to the car. I've been working on the car all last week to get it to a point to where I can have a "driveable project" again & I veered off the path a lil' bit. I have kinda always liked the clean smooth look (no body lines), so I got to workin'.... (BTW props to 1vicissitude on the Rage Body Filler tip, thanks mang!)


So anyway, I filled in the belt line on the rear bumper...


... and the rear bumper lights...



I wired the reverse light by tapping into the wires on the back of the driver's side tail light - I set it up so it could be reversed back to stock easily (bullet connectors).



I went ahead and mounted up the tail lights & finish panel. Just a word of warning - I'm using an R-Speed finish panel (stock). The panel does not bolt up and line up perfectly like a Mazda factory rear finish panel, I don't know if it's just the one I have, or if all rear finish panels are like that. I had to modify the key hole & I had to shave down the edges of the finish panel where it meets the rear 3/4 panel (rear fenders). Also a pictured below the lines are all outta wack - good thing I'm molding-in the tails....





After a bit of fill & sand I went ahead and sprayed a quick layer of primer. I still need to smoothen it out a bit and finish it out proper. All in all I think I spent about $225-$250 on the finish panel, tail lights, body fill, primer, clear coat, sandpaper, filler applicators, extra hardener, and random hardware. Pic of where it stands at this point....







More body work to come....
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Unfortunately no.....the title of the thread is something like "John flare molding project..." or something like that. Your bodywork is looking great though man!
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:18 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Man, thanks guys! It's really cool to put in a ton of work into something that you, yourself, appreciate & other guys in the scene appreciate as well.


Phantomxrider - I found John's foam build thread. That guy is nuts with the foam! He did his a few months before I got mine done, but we took different paths to modify the lights. Kinda cool, we both had an idea to modify the light, but we never saw each others threads - lol! Man, I never thought I'd ever tell to anyone to buy altezza lights, but...
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Yeah that guy is facking nuts! I might have to follow suit and do a faux set of GV tails as well. Just my luck though - I already had a set of altezzas and freaking sold them
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I got about an hour today to get back to work on the rear. I sanded out the areas to expose the low spots.



Another shot...



I'm really trying to get the rear totally smooth & painted & also get the trunk smooth/painted within the next 2 weeks. I'm gettin' kinda busy with other things, which is hindering progress.

I picked up a fender from an NA & a cowl/front window trim panel off an NB this past week. THe fender has a slight dent where it meets the bumper, but I think it's workable. The cowl looks like it's the same for an NB & NA, mine was broken at the passenger side.




pics of the dent, it's hard to see in pics... Sorry about the camera strap floating in the frame on the second pic...



I've got my eye open for a new steering wheel, I've grown sick of the diaper of a steering wheel that came from the factory. Any recommendations?
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Prototipo. The end.
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Prototipo. The end.
That is what is sitting in a box on my desk right now awaiting the arrival of my Works Bell hub.
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